2016 NFL Football Season

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Jurgen, Jan 12, 2016.

  1. SnipTheDog

    SnipTheDog Been here awhile

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    Going back further, Lombardi had a pretty good system in Green Bay. How did Lombardi do elsewhere? Not so good.
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    stevie99 That's gotta hurt Super Supporter

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    Long term stability is important, the pats have that in spades. I do believe that they have benefited from being in a relatively weak division the past 20 years. But regardles, they show up and play, they seldom screw up and they're consistently excellent in the era of free agency and the salary cap. Kudos to them, the fuckers.
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  3. stevie99

    stevie99 That's gotta hurt Super Supporter

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    You could say leaving Green Bay killed him.
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    Pats fans are such snowflakes. :lol3

    The Pats have two advantages. First, the big one, their coaching is the best in the NFL. They get average players and get them to consistently perform at a NFL level. It's an amazing achievement.

    The second is Brady, who is smart and accurate. Like any QB, he suffers under pressure up the middle. But that great coaching has designed an offense that gets the ball out of his hand faster than the rush can reach him.

    Talent can beat them. But they won't be outcoached, either in game plan or in getting the max out of journeymen players, guys who constitute the bulk of most NFL rosters.
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    Bill Walsh's book is what made me appreciate what Belichick does in coaching up his players. Like Walsh, Belichick has his players ready to use whatever technique is needed for a given situation.
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    He had started to turn an awful Redskins team around when he died.
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    SnipTheDog Been here awhile

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    Right. Coaches make decision that allows players to make plays.
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    Uh huh. And the players make plays that allow coaches to keep their jobs.

    My conclusion: to form a winning team, it takes several moving parts (the coaches, "the system", the owner/management, AND the athletes (yes, even Brady)) all working well together. As one can observe watching the many shitty NFL teams, that is not an easy thing to accomplish.
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    Finally, we agree! But the system is more about the GM and the coach getting along. The owner and GM sharing a willingness to work together. The GM being able to draft or sign players that fit the coaching philosophy. Pete Carroll talked quite a bit about finding the right setting to allow his success in Seattle.
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    I think we still disagree about whether or not Brady is an athlete. :baldy

    I wonder how well Bill gets along with his GM? :-)
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    I have no doubt that Brady transformed himself into an NFL athlete.

    Since Belechick (head coach and GM) is winning, I'm sure he gets along well with the owner. You have to ask, why didn't Belechick have success at Cleveland? Why didn't Pete Carroll have success at the Jets or Patriots?
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    It's a football joke, not a political (CS&M) joke.
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    Damn it, that is an impeachable offense.
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    Conflict of interest as owner of the NJ Generals.
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    The 49ers' new GM has zero experience in football management at any level.

    John Lynch was a great player and is a good TV analyst. He is not a GM.

    Hmmm.. the last team to hire a GM from the broadcast booth? Detroit Lions. Matt Millen. That went well.
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    I was perplexed by the hire. Lynch must have done great in the interview... but I don't think this experiment will end well.
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    the niners are a disaster.