2016 OFFICIAL DAKAR f5irehose - THANK YOU ALL F5 posters and lurkers!

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  1. rmhrc628

    rmhrc628 Long timer

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    What's that in 'stralan mate?
  2. pebble35

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    What about the service route ? Does this mean teams can meet up 'roadside' with support vehicles on the liaison section and get servicing done ? Or is the timing all wrong ?
  3. too old

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    But they are (were) still in Argentina - I think - or that where the liaison started so who knows what the start times are based on?

    Looking at the live timing on Dakar.com - the time went back from 7.53 to 6.53, so I would assume that the switch to Bolivian time was made and it is now to be 8 am Bolivian time, so another 1/2 hr, as there GMT is actual CET - I think!?
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    Think it means Casteau got some time back also :D
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    This is it in english if that helps :lol3:lol3:lol3:lol3:lol3

    pasted from Italian Soloenduro forum, this shoulds be David Casteu's release is Pela Renet accident: "I was riding with him and another competitor to 20 kilometers from the finish. They drove on a good pace. He was in front and in a curve that closed, it happened really too fast and left straight. The bike stalled, it is mounted in the air and fell on his head. The bike fell back on him and he was completely unconscious. He stayed 10 minutes like that, then he opened his eyes and asked me where it was. I put my blanket on it to hide from the sun, I put it on the side but it was very bad back. The helicopter has been slow to arrive. When you have an unconscious person before you, the minutes seem incredibly long. I left on a leisurely pace because it calms you a little. "
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  6. e900naestrada

    e900naestrada Adventurer

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    Curiosity.

    What country have more pilots on Dakar?
    At the first start line we have 24 from France, 17 Spain, 16 from Netherlands, 15 from Argentine, 10 from Italy, and other few from other countries
  7. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    :wink:F5 pre-play: SS5 Jujuy - Uyuni (second part of marathon stage) 327 km.


    Okay, on the merits of the special stage results yesterday on SS4 "Jujuy loop" stage, team HRC lead out on today SS5 with the duo of Gonk and Kev followed by Rockstar Faria on the Husky... with the rest of the Honda, KTM and Husky elite squad members all in the top dozen start slots for today after the marathon bivoiouac.

    What this means for the overall rankings time wise... the HRC trinity of Gonk, Kevin and Bam Bam sit in 1-2-3... (with Barreda five minutes off 1st place). Svitko/Faria about 3 minutes back from him (@ 8min 25 sec off first) then a quintet of factory KTMs (Waulkner, Quint, Toby and Meo) all piled in together on the 10 minute mark.

    Theoretically going in, Gonk is in the hurt chair... opening the piste in an "off piste stage" with his pursuers all behind him.

    For the team strategy, the HRC trio (if they close up tother on the stage) have to try and maintain as good a pace up front as they can, cause the advantage (of bloodhound tracking the first riders wheel marks) is to the KTM/Husky squadrons advantage as the the stage progresses.

    The three minute start gap rule HAS lessened the potential for tailgating/dust tracking amongst the front runner... but what it does mean is that every gap made up is a three minute gain.

    Anyone of the KTM squadron only need to pick up two or three spots on the navigation today... and the 10 minute spread from first to tenth place overall, is reduced to almost nothing.

    Todays stage will be a crucial one for the MOTO elites tactics this year.

    AUTOS:

    For the cars it is a similar situation...

    Team PUG lead off today with the DAKARS all time most winning driver/navigator combination of Perfecthansel/JP Cottret leading out first car on the road... off piste stage and real DAKAR conditions promised. Mr DAKAR could put on a clinic, if his (self admitted as yet unproven car) can maintain it's impressive form and finish the stage strongly.

    Behind them team mate Carlos will try to keep pace, Sebbe and Elena will be taking notes and pedalling quickly to see if they have this DAKAR gig figured out.

    Nasser needs to attack... I would predict a stage win for him today if all goes well... and he can get a bead on the three PUG's... question is how fast/fragile might the Peugeots be... Nasser in the tested MINI will try to get an answer today I thin.

    Mudboy is doing a great job in his Peugeot with last years race director pointing out the turns and ditches... I think he has already become MORE the equal of Nani Roma in just his first year auto apprenticeship.... fast learner is le Cyril... he proved the same early in his 2 wheel DAKAR carreer with BMW.

    At the moment Nasser and Hirvonen (15 minutes off first pos. in the general classificationa overally) are the only X-Raid threat to Peugeot (the rest of the mini-troopers are about @ 45 minutes out of the lead.

    But there are FOUR Toyotas ( Poulter, DeVilliers, ten Brinke, Vasilyev and Alrahji) all in the top dozen and less than 20 minutes from the front - overall.

    Despite his penalty yesterday which dropped him abysmally in the overall rankings - Speed Gordon get "gifted" the no. 10 start position for todays SS5 re-start, due to hiss priority re-seeding, so we might see some offroad orange sparks fly as he does this now standard; "if we were'nt an hour down on penalties and a half hour too slow - we'd be winning this thing..." routine...:norton :lol3 :thumb
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  8. garfey

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    AHA! So sheer laziness explains it!
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    What I saw in the past is that Dakar doesn't always run on local time. Seems like if last years they kept the same GMT-3 while switching time zones.
  10. rmhrc628

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    Surely the local time at departure ?
  11. ianofmcmillan

    ianofmcmillan Been here awhile

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    So it seems like CS Santosh had trouble keeping it rubber-side-up this year. Out because of a smashed up nav tower and also had issues on stage two (photo). Better luck next time.
    [​IMG]
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  12. rmhrc628

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    I see nothing wrong with that.

    The design is reverse duck bill ram air - forces air into the airbox
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    *kartman* GO Bacon GO !

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    There was an episode of Top Gear where they wanted to cross the Andes and also suffered altitude sickness. They tried to take Viagra against it :lol3 Any recommendations on that ?
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    It will certainly make you ride hard :jack
  16. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    Common course - means for all competing vehicles... as far as the marathon stage status is concerned... no "ourtside service is permitted" and in keeping with Mr Coma's previously anounced policy to make the rally a more level playing field, I (assume) he has set an entirely different itinerary and route for assistance vehicles from Jujuy to Uyuin... but I have no map to confirm this.

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    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    Apparently it just makes the swelling go to your head... and the dizzy spells last for hours... :rofl
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    Tim Coronel providing Laia's official wake-up call this morning
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    Outrageous and shameless self-publicity, lol.

    I'm working from home today so will be trawling social networks for dakar goodies...
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  20. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    06:53 : A real headache of a day…
    The first bikers and quad riders have already set out to Uyuni, the finishing point of this 5th stage. Although the conclusion to the marathon stage will be on the minds of many, the main key to the day’s action will be the competitors’ resistance to altitude sickness. With headaches and tiredness on the menu, all the competitors will be dreading a day that will see them reach an altitude of more than 4,500 metres.

    06:58 : It’s all over for Damien Udry
    The Swiss rider will not be repeating his performance of last year, when he managed to reach the finish in 58th position. Following a fall on yesterday’s special, KTM rider number 98 managed to get to the finishing line, but did not feel able to resume racing this morning. The rally has therefore come to a halt for this accomplished sportsman in the disciplines of motocross, enduro and even downhill mountain-biking. Will he be back in 2017

    07:03 : A premature end for Robledo’s first time
    For his first participation on the Dakar, Nicolas Robledo was without a doubt dreaming of a different outcome to his adventure. Unfortunately for the Colombian quad rider, yesterday’s special was fatal for his hopes. Unable to repair damage sustained by his machine, Nicolas exited the race. Following his withdrawal, there are now 43 quads left on the rally.

    07:24 : A very discrete showing from Yamaha
    Since the start of the rally, the “blues” have been very quiet. Helder Rodrigues, the team leader who has returned to the fold after a spell with Honda, and his team-mate Alessandro Botturi have not exactly put in outstanding performances. Lying in 13th and 16th positions in the general standings, the two team-mates already lag behind quite significantly. The Portuguese rider is 17 minutes behind the leader, whilst the Italian is 21 minutes off the front of the race. Even though it is not yet panic stations for the blues, especially since most observers consider that the second week of the race will be decisive, it still seems urgent for the two men to react. With their experience, they could make a comeback today, because the stage’s profile should give pride of place to navigational skills.

    07:34 : Liparoti addicted to the Dakar
    “The Dakar is like a drug…” Coming from this little lady measuring 1.60 m and weighing in at 47 kilos, such a declaration can be surprising. However, since 2009, this former free-ride skier has not missed a single edition of the Dakar on her quad. After having finished as the first lady on the event in the bike and quad categories in 2013, the Franco-Italian now holds the record for distance covered riding a quad on the Dakar. For the 2016 edition, Camelia’s sole objective is to finish. This morning, she lies in 23rd place in the general standings…
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