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Discussion in 'Racing' started by troy safari carpente, Dec 27, 2015.
Yep, ol' George cut right thru to the meat in so many areas - too bad so few paid any attention.
So the Greenies succeeded in disrupting "the natural order of things," that is, what had been agreed to. s!
07:41 : The cars are on their way too
The cars have also started out towards the day’s special stage, giving the opportunity to take an overview of the race and to see who can still hope for victory…
07:39 : Little by little
At last, the situation is improving at the entrance to the national park. The local law enforcement authorities are letting the riders through in bunches. Whilst this has led to an extra pause before the special, the main consequence of this slow passage is the delay incurred by the competitors. Consequently, the start of the bike special has been put back slightly.
07:35 : Back to square one or almost!
This first stage of resumption after the rest day sees the 38th Dakar taken on a new dimension. It is similar to what happens on the Tour de France, where the reality of the flat stages is not the same as in the mountains, because this second week of the rally will see the race radically change its profile. Navigation and crossing of dunes will now take pride of place. This eighth stage measuring 766 kilometres including a special of 393 km, will be an appetizer for tomorrow. The competitors will have to tackle the first portions of dunes and the new subtleties of navigation introduced this year. Is a sea-change in the situation likely? We should have an initial answer this evening…
Meo started at 7.40
Looks like it.
Special Cars Bikes Quads Trucks
Start 08:57 07:00 08:04 10:06
Connection 373km 373km 373km 373km
Special stage 393km 393km 393km 393km
Number of participants
from start 91 112 36 51
have left 0 3 0 0
at arrival - - - -
aparently competitors are stopped bij the police on the liason. special stage to start a bit later.
according to rallymaniacs.com
It's getting more like the Gumball Rally everyday !!
I presume, some local police (?) don´t want competitors to ride through "their" park - even when it was agreed by country authorities.
I expect phone call from ministery to local police station, where will be explained that the head of the local police and his assistants may not have their jobs tomorrow, if will not allow riders to pass through the park... what take some time. But it shows, that not all locals are so happy to have Dakar on their territory.
What's with the start order? It looks a touch weird....
I did wonder - it looked surprisingly familiar from 2011...
WPS times on trackingdakar appear all messed up- ASO blurp mixing original and revised start times?
exhaust noise level check?
just a wild guess
Will Botturi wait 5 minutes for Rodrigues in classic watercarrier fashion? From the French Yamaha team, only De Soultrait is taking DSS behind the leader, isn't it?
PS: sad news, Godspeed David Bowie.
Dakar website shows only 5 bikes started
The bikes start the special
The day's proceedings have been kicked off for the bikes with Antoine Meo starting the special. Currently, 8 bikes are on the timed section. The riders who got held up at the entrance to the national park are continuing to arrive. As mentioned previously, the bike special has started later than planned, with a delay of 40 minutes.
Yep, it looks correct on dakar.com http://gaps.dakar.com/2016/dakar/stage-09/aso/ukie.php
CAR DUMP (information overload)
Toyota: can they make it a three horse race?
Whilst the official team is not lacking in ambition, its form on the first half of the 2016 edition has not been exceptional. However, it has been far from catastrophic. As proof, De Villiers, Poulter and Alrajhi are in 6th, 7th and 8th place in the general standings respectively. Tightly grouped, these positions could help them to make the difference, in particular against the Minis on the coming stages. Indeed, whilst it is legitimate to think that the Toyota Pick Ups potentially perform a little less well than the Minis and the Peugeots, the experience of De Villiers, winner in 2009 and second last year, could prove to be a formidable weapon against the “newcomers” leading him in the general standings. In short, the battle at the front of the rally cannot be limited to a simple duel between Peugeot and Mini.
Mini: Al Attiyah alone against Peugeot
To say that the Mini team has been dominated by far on the first half of the 2016 edition is a big understatement. Although before the start Nasser Al Attiyah stated loud and clear that the Peugeot drivers were not a worry to him, it is obvious that the title holder has had to change tune… Of the three official Mini drivers, he is the only one to have split up the pack of Peugeots on two stages. Almost with an air of resignation, the Qatar is still within touching distance of the French team. Before the highpoint stages of this Dakar, he is in fourth place in the general standings, only 17 minutes behind the leader, Sébastien Loeb, so it could be worse. With navigation and crossing of dunes to come, Al Attiyah, like Peterhansel and Sainz, will be waiting to see how the man from Alsace will handle them. He will also be hoping that his Mini with its four-wheel driver will enable him to make the difference in the dunes as opposed to the 2-wheel driver Peugeots. However, the main concern for Mini is that Al Attiyah seems to be very isolated against the Peugeot trio; unless of course, the internal battle within the Gallic team throws up some opportunities for him… A watchful eye should nonetheless be cast over Nani Roma. Lagging behind by more than 1 hour and 21 minutes, the Spaniard is still capable of several exploits. As for Mikko Hirvonen, coming from the WRC like Loeb, he will be making his debut with serious navigation and consequently may come up a little short in the fight for overall victory.
Peugeot: can Loeb do it?
The hard work now starts for Peugeot with the second week of the rally. Having won all the stages contested, the French team has been very impressive and many believe that victory is already in the bag. This is perhaps the case, but the main question that this statement raises is the following one: by whom? Indeed, this is the main concern for the management of the Lion brand. Sébastien Loeb, Stéphane Peterhansel and Carlos are all within a 5 minute bracket in the general standings. Although the former enjoyed stages with profiles that favoured him at the start of the rally, he will be faced with the hard stuff as from today, with navigation being predominant. This is the very least that his two pursuers can hope. Experienced and wily if necessary, Sainz bu especially Peterhansel surely do not want their toes tread on by Loeb, however talented he may bel. For the moment, each of them can freely play their hand…Hopefully, mechanical problems will not take the matter out of their hands. Although enjoying greater performance and efficiency than last year, the 2016 versions of the DKR 2008 also seemed irreproachable in terms of reliability. Unfortunately, the minor problems encountered by Sainz, Despres and Loeb have been a fly in the ointment in a very positive first week of the rally. What will happen as from today? Will the Peugeot team be able to provide all the technical guarantees necessary for the end of a rally that promises to be tantalizing?
You're time-late, f5olks. The standoff was over a while ago and there are now >13 bikes on stage.
This is time-late, too:
08:11 : The bikes start the special
The day’s proceedings have been kicked off for the bikes with Antoine Meo starting the special. Currently, 8 bikes are on the timed section. The riders who got held up at the entrance to the national park are continuing to arrive. As mentioned previously, the bike special has started later than planned, with a delay of 40 minutes.
Start order? Dunno what's going on but someone shuffled the deck.
Edit: And now 6 thru WP1: