2016 OFFICIAL DAKAR f5irehose - THANK YOU ALL F5 posters and lurkers!

Discussion in 'Racing' started by troy safari carpente, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. beechum1

    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    cyborg Potius Sero Quam Numquam

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    Sorry to hear. He made it a long way into the rally. :(
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    Rato Molhado Psiconauta del inconsciente

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    ¡Primero tengo que ir yo! :lol3 With 2.780.000 km2 there are a lot of places I haven't seen yet :wink:
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  7. Anders Green

    Anders Green NASA Rally Sport

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    Yes. Another possible consideration especially in this area is the limitations of the database that is generating the scoring. To "force" the time of a stage to something other than it really was, you would have to put in "fake" finish times. This would work, in that it would then calculate the time that you want, but it then destroys the integrity of all the scores as a record of what actually happened. It turns out THAT is pretty important too, it can be used as cross referencing data in the adjudication of later penalties for other riders, and in future years it's used as an analysis of speed profiles of the stages for planning, which gets used in all sorts of infrastructure things like "how long to we have to keep staff at CP3 before we know no one else will be coming in?"

    So you usually don't want to go down the "just put in the fake time of day into the software that will give us the score we want to award this racer" which leaves only the penalty area of the database to make "custom adjustments".

    It's possible to build software that has a "double entry" or "stage override" capability which would let you assign a stage time without nullifying the integrity of the stored data. It's very unlikely that the ASO would do this though.
    1) Do we have lots of evidence of really awesome software from these guys? *grin*
    2) This is an edge case that doesn't effect who wins. The people that win... they're going to have the nice clean times. They're running at the front, where everything is going smoothly, before the wacko accidents happen. So to get the winner right, the software doesn't need to have this extra complication of double entry.
    3) The people architecting the databases are not rally racers. They're "regular people" and so rare cases like this don't even register. ("Rare" to a software developer means "it didn't happen that one time I looked." ;) )
    4) We would be seeing it if they had it.

    You can build software to do anything. But custom software is also one of the most expensive things on the planet. So you'll put your dollars and effort toward the features that are important to you. Stuff that mostly affects the backmarkers won't get the dollars. I used to be in software development where we would quote incoming projects, and I've written a rally scoring software system myself. Between those two I'd estimate that Dakar's scoring system probably cost between $120,000 to $300,000 to build. That's just the software cost.

    So when force majeure situations like this come up, watch the penalty column carefully. ;)

    Anders
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    Sylvain's FB

    He went to the end
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    85 111 Espinasse (FRA) Huqsvarna 009:57:38 07:05:41
    9 H57mn38s It's the time spent on his motorcycle by Sylvain only on the special. Or 07 h05mn41s more that the winner of the stage.... Where many will have put feet on the floor.. Did you do it no more....... And no more... And the not....; And the.....; If this is not the will!!!!!! Simply Sylvain we're proud of you.... Few of us would have done what you just did. All you gotta do what has to return to bivouac...... 300 km.... A Straw.
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    rickmdz Been here awhile

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    What a beautiful country (My) Argentina, too bad we had too many crooks running it for too long (end of rant.../)
    The scenery tomorrow will be breathtaking, hopefully will have racing action to match
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    Great pictures in the dunes today, thanks Team F5. :thumb

    Happy to see Ricky Brabec rockin' this Dakar :pynd and Ian Blythe just a few positions back from Brabec 11th on the sand stage! :clap
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    funny how I said the slowest MEC SA Honda team member would have to give up the goods... but that's what happened right MM was slowest. HMMMMMMMM
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    Copied from the BMW guy thread.
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  17. too old

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    That 3rd step on the podium is going to be a real battle (assuming the first 2 are safe and in the Dakar nobody is ever safe) - around 3 mins between the 3 of them with Helder 10 mins back!!:clap:clap:clap

    Speedy out of contention with that time "penalty"?

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    Today's weather for La Rioja top of 33*c although the temp at the finish line will be... 37 ... same as the fiasco day...
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  20. bobzilla

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    BINGO my thoughts exactly. Boost Compression haha