2016 OFFICIAL DAKAR f5irehose - THANK YOU ALL F5 posters and lurkers!

Discussion in 'Racing' started by troy safari carpente, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. chasbo

    chasbo Long timer Supporter

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    I like the Yamaha's. LOL
  2. Myway

    Myway Long timer

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  3. too old

    too old Keen supporter Supporter

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    100% - they can't have Toby hanging off the back just in case anything goes wrong.

    Great for Toby - whatever happened this Dakar, he has coped with it and seems to have been pretty faultless and very sensible - the result and reward should be there later today!
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  4. Myway

    Myway Long timer

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    How Toby sits on the motor and stand on it, it looks relaxed. Energy saved. His own style.
    There are many riding like a cat on the bikes. Looks more aggressive.

    What do you think, a posture influence the winning capacity?
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  5. rickmdz

    rickmdz Been here awhile

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    He definitely looks relaxed. I noticed from looking at pictures and video that Helder tends to spend more time seating, not that I have statistics to prove it, just something I thought or caught my eye.

    Two days ago there was a small water crossing and noticed how TP lofted his front wheel and just flew through that section whereas others significantly slowed down to cross it.
  6. ferals5

    ferals5 Grumpa

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    Yes very much so, his relaxed posture on the bike makes you think he's not riding fast...but as we can all see he's been very fast. I asked the question a few days ago " why didn't he back off" when he really could have afforded to? The reply was "he makes less mistakes when he rides fast".
    So I believe this young bloke will continue winning rally's from the front. He won't need to play the cat n mouse tactical game as much as CdP & MC ... he'll just ride off the front. But unlike the bam bam's of the world he is super smooth... (and easy on the bike as his spanner men say) Toby is just one of those naturally gifted riders.
    Just my point of view, time will tell I suppose.
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  7. lurkin

    lurkin Been here awhile

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    Feral, I was talking to one of Toby’s old team managers yesterday,,, reckons “we” could be in for a fare few years of Toby dominating the big races:rayof

    Some his thoughts that I recall….

    Re Toby’s nav; “ Its not hard to teach a fast rider to navigate ,,,, impossible to teach a good navigator/ slow rider to go fast “

    Re HRC; “ money pays the bills , but can’t buy wins”
    and
    "To think he didn’t even get that Husky contract till about mid year , another tactical blunder by HRC.”

    He sounded as buggered as the rest of us from all the sleep deprived nights :lol3
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  8. timeOday

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    I wouldn't even want a 450 Adventure. A 650-class can make more torque and comparable HP with much more relaxed tuning for just a few extra lbs. Eeking out the last few percent of performance at an extreme cost in money, servicing, and reliability is for competition only IMHO. Particularly for rally/adventure bikes that aren't light anyways by design. The bikes in Dakar are 400 lb.
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  9. garfey

    garfey Scruffy Adventurer Supporter

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    Being disillusioned, pissed off & disgusted, and having given up 3 days ago, I'm checking in at the end of the day and I think the "making this crap up" is the story of Dakar 2016.

    Wunnerful to see all "my guyz" who are still in it are still in it. And m'galz, too!!!
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    Corky :cry
    Carroll :cry
    And Sylvain is stil Riinnnggg, Dinngg, Dinngg Dinngg-in' it!!!

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  10. K_N_Fodder

    K_N_Fodder Long timer Supporter

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    Thing of beauty. Sat in a pub in Lander, WY tonight and got caught up. I was one of those anti-social nose-in-the-phone types. ;)
  11. garfey

    garfey Scruffy Adventurer Supporter

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    "Pull out" from where?
    Oh, wait! Never mind.
  12. RussellM

    RussellM Been here awhile

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    Are you sure we are talking about the same bike?

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  13. garfey

    garfey Scruffy Adventurer Supporter

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    Wow!
    My TP Respect-O-Meter just bent the needle on the 0 pin!
    Too damn young to know what's possible and what's not.
  14. chasbo

    chasbo Long timer Supporter

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    Yep, not the prettiest Rally bike, but I do like it. I also like the new Suzuki's.
  15. homerj

    homerj 742 Evergreen Terrace

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    There's more than one pub in Lander?

    I really liked Lander.
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  16. RussellM

    RussellM Been here awhile

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    Those weren't quotes from Toby, but from one of his old Team Mangers.
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  17. rides2little

    rides2little Braaaaaap Supporter

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    That wasn't a quote from Toby, but one of his old managers. Why would that make your respectometer peg at 0?


    Douh...205'd by mere seconds.
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  18. RussellM

    RussellM Been here awhile

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    Don't get me wrong. If someone had put that Yamaha together in their shed I would be cheering them on, but for a moto turned out from a pro outfit like that it looks pretty lame.

    I think the Suzukis look good too. In there own way. I think it was smart to somewhat tie the styling back to a production "adventure" model.
  19. chasbo

    chasbo Long timer Supporter

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    The Yamaha is the worst looking of the factory bikes, but it still makes me smile. Helder made it go today to, so its got some oomph.
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  20. Clancy

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    Yeah, that's pretty much what it is I think. I've said it before but if you look at riders and drivers in the past that have been head and shoulders above the opposition, most of them looked smooth and looked like they were doing it easy. TP is the same. He said two days ago that he wasn't riding at 10/10 to conserve things and he was going to have a crack, on a day that he'd been a LOT faster than anyone else. Looks good for the future:clap
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