2016 OFFICIAL DAKAR f5irehose - THANK YOU ALL F5 posters and lurkers!

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  1. Myway

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    Sorry, missed this question while at the race...

    640 is correct about the Speedo Cap, but not about the ICO vs. RNS comment. It's true, most teams are using at least one, if not two Speedo Caps in this event.

    As far as ICO facts...

    * 3 of 5 Factory KTM's switched from RNS to ICO Rallye MAX this year (Viladoms, Meo, and Walkner. Laia and Toby didn't have enough testing time to switch).
    * To my knowledge, all of Factory Husky and HT Husky switched to ICO Rallye MAX
    * Factory Yamaha switched to ICO Rallye MAX (incl. Helder, Bottori)
    * Factory Sherco is using ICO Rallye MAX (640 said so as well)

    It was a fun race! I'm glad I was able to provide direct support to these ICO teams while at the race. Finally time to come up for internet air!! ;-)

    OK, back to firehose digestion...

    Dave
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    I too wanted to add my thanks - don't contribute much as you all do a much better job than I ever could but this is my Numero Uno source for Dakar info. Well Done! :clap I stand in awe.

    Much thanks [and back to your regularly scheduled programming!
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    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    To be fair, everyone could make a video and be interesting. I had an idea a year or more back to make contact to all the racers and ask them to contribute a paragraph (or more) about their ride. We could have a tales from the bivouac every year, and print in pdf. That is, the riders that aren't managed by PR, bit then those are almost always the real stories worth reading.
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    Awesome Dave.....

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    I would not think the organization did that. Actually it looks like a normal "lomo de burro". They aré comon in dust roads like this.
    What I do not understand is the dynamics of the jump. It looks as if the rear axle jumps more than the front one. Perhaps we have a rally driver that can explain this. Perhaps she was braking while jumping??
  7. JMo (& piglet)

    JMo (& piglet) Unicorn breeder

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    It's here (from earlier on this thread, and on Corky's own "40 year old virgin" thread too)...



    Jx
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  8. Myway

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    I mean to say the track was prepaired, the organization ( local argentines, gobierno, who helped ASO). You see to the left, that new ground over the overgrown green sites, and maybe, they make that thing 5- 10 cm higher, like the watercrossing that was not 30 cm deep as in the roadbook but 60 cm.

    This is not a used 6 month old bump calming.
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  9. gagnaou

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    Great post as usual Carlos!


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  10. DesertSurfer

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    Winding down another season of Dakar...Sigh.

    My thanks go out to everyone who kept this thread alive and moving during the days of the race.

    Having a live bulletin board going with real time information and insight from so many news and statistical sources at once... puts me so much closer to each stage and the participants during the event. How freakin cool IS THAT!!!

    The photo resources are amazing... and I love all the graphical interfaces as well.

    I've really been fortunate with this thread and not having to jockey so much between other sites including Dakar.com.

    But as much as this thread has evolved, the past few years without live rally radio interviews with Ned, Pyn and Deadly on location has felt less exciting. Yes, we were really spoiled back then.

    How I wish ADVRIDER had a revenue stream to support embedding these guys above and an online news staff to live stream the Dakar as a pay per view event... especially for us American fans as well as other countries that don't receive proper Dakar coverage.

    Also this year's race was a changing of the guard.

    With a younger generation moving in and especially taking advantage of this year's less technical WRC "PUG" oriented course.

    Just as it seemed the Adv Dakar thread has evolved with less commentary from the old F5 guard.

    I myself had a transitional experience... No guaranteed TV coverage by my provider meant no Saturday Super Dakar Bowl party. No Dakar pool this year. And no one to mentor this season in my hometown about how the Dakar strategies play out, how the rules are made.., only to be broken by the French participants I.E the "Peterhansel Provision".

    I hope Mr. Coma gets another shot at his post. I think he will respond positively to the problems of this year with a better course selection... weather ( and dependable SA country evolvement) permitting.

    I'd love it if the Malle Moto category was better promoted and represented with Advrider hiring and embedding Jenny to lead and cover the category live!

    Thanks to all the Dakar participants, Advrider, F5ers... and to Troy for carrying the torch and keeping our Dakar dreams illuminated.

    See you all again next Dakar season.
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    JMo (& piglet) Unicorn breeder

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    Aw, thank you so very much Desert' - I would be both honoured and delighted to provide that service direct from the bivouc each day - all we need to find is a sponsor to cover my media entry fee, and I'm there!!!

    Jx
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  12. DesertSurfer

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    I was thinking more like ADVRIDER covering your participant's and motorcycle fees to follow the Malle motos on the course each day and stream commentary live. Hell ya!
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  13. yardracer

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    Redbull interview with Matthias Walkner

    100% Hias: "I'm going unloaded in the Dakar 2017"
    Matthias Walkner in an interview about his comeback after the Dakar Rally-fall and the European Football Championship.
    Matthias Walkner is back - and the Salzburg native is now working on his comeback. After the momentous fall in the 7th stage of the Dakar Rally 2016, the KTM rider has returned to Austria on Friday. In an interview, he analyzed the fall, thanked his fans and looks to the future - including winning tip for the football championship.

    Servus Matthias. You are back in Austria. How are you? Well, so halfway. The leg is pretty swollen because the journey home took a long time. From La Paz to Buenos Aires, from Buenos Aires to Paris, from Paris to Munich and from there back home. Overall, I was 24 hours on the road. But now I have a very nice room at the Emergency Hospital in Salzburg. I see snow, I look at the fort and the food is very good.

    What do the doctors say about your leg? Currently, the doctors are satisfied. The operation in Bolivia has been done optimally, according to X-ray they also can't do better in Salzburg.

    Do you have to be afraid of long-term consequences or are there again soon 100% Hias? Nobody can say for sure as of right now, it was a terrible break. But it was fortunately no rotation break and normally nothing should remain. It may be that I feel the nail, but I can have that removed. A stupid torn ligament is certainly worse in everyday life.

    When can you leave the hospital? The way it looks now on Tuesday. The doctors still want to look at my right knee more accurately, which was also affected when I fell.

    When does your rehab start ? That actually has already begun in Bolivia, where I had twice daily physical therapy. I have to say that the treatment in La Paz was great.

    One question I can not spare you: How could this happen? I was at 6 clock eastwards, thus accurately towards the sunrise on the road. I've even thought that I actually can't see anything and got off the gas. Nevertheless, I perceived the washed out place, 3 meters wide and 1.5 meters deep, much too late - maybe 20 meters before. I quickly realized: The curve I can not get ... That's why I tried to jump. The throttle and front wheel in the air. But even while I was doing that I was actually aware that this will not go well. I crashed with about 70 km / h into the opposite slope, I somersaulted forward and on the handlebars I broke my thigh.

    Was it a mistake or fate? It was an extremely stupid situation definitely where 10 unfortunate circumstances came together. Paulo Goncalves and Toby Price have subsequently said that they were happy about the warning after my accident, because they have slowed down because of that. The lighting conditions were simply disastrous. That might well have hit everyone.

    Heinz Kinigadner was surprised at how confident you were until then go. Your assessment: Would you be able to win? This is of course difficult to say. Top 3 would be considered safe. But win ... rather no than yes.
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  14. DesertSurfer

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    The ADVRIDER community has revolutionized race coverage with it's use of the internet... Just as the ASO revolutionized race coverage with it's use of Helicopter filming in the Dakar.

    The ASO should work together with the ADVRIDER community to embed it's reporters into the Dakar to pull real time coverage during the race... To continue revolutionizing the race coverage tradition!!! I say hire Ned, Pyn, Deadly and Jen!!!
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  15. yardracer

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    DAKAR BIKES RECAP- Mission Accomplished USA
    January 18, 2016 by Scotty Breauxman
    Posted in Dakar 2016, Featured
    To Americans, winning the Dakar is like planet Mars: We can see it sometimes but no one has ever been there yet.

    This is not a story about the world’s best rally racer and being the first Australian to win the Dakar Rally. That would be about Toby Price, the hell-man who just sealed KTM’s 15th straight win and only the third person in ten years to win the event.

    No. This story is about 5 American rookies who went down to South America in hopes of simply finishing the longest, and arguably toughest motorsports event on earth. All rookies, none of these riders could have known what they would face, how hard it would be or the manners in which their lives would be changed forever. Of the five starters, four made it to the finish and each of those did notably well.

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    Ricky Brabec #48 was and is America’s most hopeful Dakar Rally contender in the years to come.

    To Americans, winning the Dakar is like planet Mars: We can see it sometimes but no one has ever been there yet. Complicated, costly and grueling, the 36 year-old-event has eluded Americans every time. Names like Blais, Gordon, LaPorte, & Lewis have gotten very close but the claim remains un-staked. As time goes on and new riders emerge, there is new hope for US fans who follow this race, but it won’t likely be an overnight sensation.

    Ricky Brabec, Team HRC HONDA– Seeded 48th; Finished 9th OA

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    Last year, the former 1x SCORE & Baja 1000 Champion was given an rare opportunity to ride on factory HONDA’s HRC Rally Team with a nod from ASO’s US Ambassador Quinn Cody. Single with no kids, 24 y.o. Brabec was at the top of Cody’s short list be the chosen one for this 2016 Dakar.

    “There a lot of guys I think would do well at the Dakar but either age or other contracts ruled them out”, Cody explains, “In the end, Ricky had no baggage, was eager to learn and did great. I knew if he was able to ride his own race and not have to do too much work for his teammates, that he would finish in the top 10”.

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    American Champion Ricky Brabec showed that he can climb up and run strongly in the Dakar. But could he be the first American to win this elusive prize?

    Of the original 5 riders on the team Brabec was the best finisher after top seeds Joan Barreda and Paulo Goncalves dropped out of the rally, both mechanical issues and injuries.

    In a previous mid-rally report, Fingers Crossed for Ricky Brabec, RDC contended that America had been no closer then 5 years to a champion Dakar rider. That was before Brabec’s noteworthy climb from a 48th seed into a 9th overall finish. He could be the first American to win the Dakar but Ricky Brabec will have to work extremely hard and with laser focus on the single goal. Anything less than 100% commitment would be futile, especially having KTM’s Toby Price to contend with.
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    Ian Blythe, Team Rally Pan AM– Seeded 106th; Finished 26th OA

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    The 24 year old Blythe is a notably fast rider with ISDE and World Championship Enduro experience. He qualified for the 2015 Dakar by winning the Dakar Challenge in 2014 with a 3rd OA at the Australasian Safari. Blythe made a notable late rally charge after taking his time to settle in during the first half. He posted an 11th and 8th in a pair of final stages. It was apparent that just getting back to Buenos Aries was his main goal and, thus, mission accomplished. It seems realistic to expect a funding package for his return attempt in 2017.

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    #106 Ian Blythe made a late rally charge with an 11th and 8th in 2 of the later stages.

    Alexander Smith, HT HUSQVARNA- Seeded 103rd; Finished 37th

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    Son of the Legendary Malcolm Smith, the 30 year old Smith has Husqvarna in his DNA. He got the nod to ride with a satellite Husky team going in his first Dakar with his shakedown at the Moroccan Rally last October. He used that first rally to cut his teeth and that proved to keep him steady in South America. Humble, mature and quite accomplished at his age, Smith paced himself for a finish and rode consistently and wisely in the middle of the pack on each stage and advance slowly and steadily. He only improved on each stage and never reversed his ranking as he progressed. Its likely he’ll get another shot next year.

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    #103 Alexander Smith crosses over to Boliva for the first of 2 marathon stages.

    Scott Bright, Team Rally Pan AM– Seeded 105th; Finished 53rd

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    It’s really impressive that Scott Bright finished the rally considering he suffered two broken arms in September, one of which was not nearly 100% when he started. Known for his toughness and persevering nature, he was not ever going to give up. In preparation for this challenge, Bright competed in the Sardegna Rally in Italy, the Cortez Rally in Mexico and he won his very first navigation event at the 2014 BAJA RALLY. Both Bright and teammate Ian Blythe were part of Rally Pan Am’s aborted 2015 attempt. It goes without saying that these guys have all been heavily invested in this effort for at least 3 years and that Scott has probably checked the Dakar off his bucket list.

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    Scotty Bright spent 3 long years getting to the Dakar.

    CR Gittere, HT HUSQVARNA, Seeded 146th; DNF after 9 stages
    CR had a lot of fellow Americans in his cheering section for being the biggest underdog in the Dakar. The highly accomplished superbike racer committed himself heavily into having a successful run by training separately with Jimmy Lewis and Quinn Cody. Needless to say, CR’s Dakar ended for him in stage during stage 10.

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    Summary:
    There is a future for Americans riders in the Dakar rally and this 2016 looks to be a turning point for us. 3 years ago we had the future in our hands when Kurt Caselli won 2 stages in his maiden attempt in 2013. But after his tragic passing later that year, there was nobody prepared to represent the US in the Dakar. Alas, with Quinn Cody’s work promoting the Dakar as well as a pair at least 3 legitimate rallies in Mexico, North Americans are slowly catching the rally buzz again. It wont be overnight, but if either Ricky Brabec or Ian Blythe dedicate and commit themselves to the goal, either could be the first American to win the Dakar Rally.
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    If I understand correct what you say, I saw in tv a vídeo showing other cars pass through the bump and they all had the same tendency to jump more on the rear. Regarding the Baja 1000 case you mention I dont know about it.
    Regarding the bump, I agree with you in that it is not a speed bump. Never seen one in a place like that although I have seen things similar to that in dust roads in Argentina.
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    Of course, you'll need a WC.......

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    I didn't realize he was the DRIVER!!
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    And a WC for the WC. I took Spanish in high school. :rayof