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Discussion in 'Racing' started by troy safari carpente, Dec 27, 2015.
Has anyone seen the Eurosport? Here in Portugal it was on at 22h00!
They showed BB and Gonk chating and seems they were not very happy with each other....
Any info on that?
Plenty durable... ehh... NOT!
I have tried the roadbook app and odo odo app that an inmate here has made and IT IS fantastic. The weekpoint being the digital interface aka ipad and iphone regardless of the case. It will fail, been there done that spent a whole event fighting with the god damn thing to keep it working. too much vibration, too cold, too much sun, connectors go kaput accelerometer always wants to recalibrate, bad signal in single track forest, case fogs up, etc...
Have you seen the testing that Dimitri (640 Armagedon) has done on his Aurora roadbooks? and that's for an analog roll of paper. To go digital it has to be way more robust than what Dimitri did for testing and no comercial device will survive we he did to his roadbook readers.
Next time you are in the SW USA send me a PM I'll get you set up to run a digital route. You might even enjoy it.
I've run thousands of miles on the same setup and can count the hardware issues I've had on one hand. Software is software and is the most cheaply and easily improved.
Not to take away anything from Dimitri, his setup is boss and he certainly has done his homework.
catching up from some bivouac action from last night, RallyManiacs.com photos from stage 2 - all posted over in the Dakar Photo F5rehose with a few here to get started.
#80 - MANUEL LUCCHESE (ITA) [YAMAHA]
#14 - MATTHIAS WALKNER (AUT) [KTM]
#11 - JORDI VILADOMS (ESP) [KTM]
#15 - FRANS VERHOEVEN (NLD) [YAMAHA]
#506 - HANS STACEY (NLD) / BRUYNKENS SERGE (BEL) / JAN VAN DER VAET (BEL) [MAN]
A good dose of adrenaline
For his first Dakar, Adrien Van Beveren resolved to learn without getting carried away. This has not stopped him enjoying himself immensely behind the handlebars of his Yamaha.
A huge smile stretches over the face of Adrien Van Beveren. The man from northern France has just finished the third stage of the Dakar in sixth position, a fine performance for this rally-raid debutant more used to the sandy beach at Le Touquet than the gravelly tracks of Argentina. However, that is not what is making Adrien smile. The Yamaha rider draws his joy from the pleasure he took out of the stage between Termas de Río Hondo and San Salvador de Jujuy. “It was a great pleasure,” he says. “Skidding round these large bends at speed gets the adrenaline flowing. It's exactly what I dreamed of when I watched the Dakar on the TV. There were also nice bits in the woods. It was a really superb special”. Adrien aims to make the riding pleasure last. “To do that, you have to avoid doing too much. You can't let yourself get carried away, but instead take it day by day doing as best you can and keeping a small bit in reserve. That's my objective for the rally”.
Without enough gas, life's not a gas
Second on the second stage, Ruben Faria had to make do with twenty-sixth place at the finish in San Salvador Jujuy, all because of a refuelling error.
Despite his below par performance and the six minutes lost to Joan Barreda, Ruben Faria is still smiling. “I rode quite well until eighteen kilometres from the finish,” explains the Portuguese rider. “I was in the top ten before the last refuelling point, but that's where I made a mistake. I thought I'd put ten litres in but in fact it was only two. I'm lucky to have finished the special… I rode really gently to avoid breaking down. Without this mishap, I could have stayed in the top three”. It's the second setback in three days for the Husqvarna rider. On Sunday, during the compulsory link stage between Rosario and Villa Carlos Paz following cancellation of the first stage, it was a lightning strike that caused him problems. “It struck about fifty metres away from me,” he remembers. “My right arm went stiff for a long while. It's a good think the stage had been neutralised”. Unfortunately for Ruben Faria, the weather is not likely to be much more favourable in the forthcoming days. “It's a very wet Dakar for the moment,” he observes. “It's important to avoid losing time on these first stages, but the race won't be won or lost before the second week. My aim is therefore to reach the rest day in Salta in the best conditions”. That way, he will be able to prepare himself for the coming battle.
Cristian España discovers the joys of being towed
He is among the many rookies who are reinvigorating the bike category year after year. Cristian España is discovering the reality of the Dakar and he likes it that way!
He comes from Escaldes, in the Principality of Andorra, and participating in the Dakar is an idea that has been kicking around his family for a long time: his father, Javi, almost managed to take part in 1992 but budget problems put paid to making his dream come true. Cristian has since picked up the torch and his first Dakar is full of anecdotes, even if being towed to the bivouac in Jujuy still leaves him with some regrets: “I was doing well today. I was in 45th or 46th position at the first check point, but then I went into the water half way up the bike and everything just cut out: the electrics had blown! I lost 40 minutes tinkering with the bike. I managed to start it again, but 40 kilometres from the bivouac, on the link section, it cut out again”. The mishap at least enabled the Andorran rider and enduro specialist to immerse himself in the Argentinean atmosphere and enthusiasm: “There were lots of spectators and the people here are so kind. I was offered petrol, someone wanted to fetch a car to tow me… It's very moving. In the end, I tried to flag some of the other riders down. Eduardo Cola, rider number 109, stopped and got his tow rope out and we made it to the bivouac together”. The reality of the Dakar's solidarity is also part of the dream; Javi would no doubt appreciate that.
Hey, I've got no problem using a digital road book for recreational riding, or even practice - and I've nothing against the concept per se... I just feel that in a race scenario (especially one I'd spent $50,000+ entering) I'd like the reassurance and infallibility of a paper roll.
But certainly I'd love to take you up on the offer next time I'm out your way ;o)
RE the honda swingarm.
The first time i saw a ktm 450 rally swingarm i thought they used old 990 stock its that big its the same aluminium section. They may break at the ends but if its thin its going to flex ,weave and handle less responsive . Has it always been there ,since it arrived at its first dakar?or has it been modified?
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I saw the same thing here in the Swedish broadcast. The Swedish commenter mentioned that they had said to not have this conversation in front of the cameras. Also that one of them was not happy with the cooperation between them.
Would be really interesting to get a deeper understanding of what went on there.
brabec is closer to the lead in his class than Gordon...
if the Dakar was a puppy, its eyes aren't even open yet
less than 7 hours raced so far
I pumped a bunch for French coverage into the video thread for those of you not able to catch the live feeds
I also found what I'm pretty sure is video evidence of why the trucks got cut short today.
I sure wouldn't want to come around that corner in a big truck
Exactly! I love my paper notebooks and 2mm Staedler pencils (because even pens and highliters and sharpies don't work at -20C)
Vx I don't know if you compete or just ride recreationally using the digital roadbook. But for me, recreationaly it's ok even though it still pissed me off to have issues. As a co-driver in rally cars I must have absolute trust in my navigation equipment, there is absolutely no excuse what so ever. Crashing on mechanical failure sucks, failing because of navigation error sucks even more but failing because of navigation equipment is the ultimate worst excuse ever . And now getting more and more (competitively) into in motorcycle rallies, I have the same philosophy.
A quick update on fantasy race rules is needed... As ASO place their penalties willy-nilly on riders without any consistent timing to do it (didn't expect that from them but anyways) it's near impossible to make changes to the fantasy results. Thus I decided it's best to ignore penalties and just do the rankings as they were when the stage was finished. This means more time for you to make changes to your teams, because I can put in the results earlier and not wait for the organizers to maybe add some penalties during the night or maybe even the next day... That means Bam-Bam gets top points for todays stage for example. I hope you can understand me.
So let's see who was best today? Coak correctly chose Barreda and Loeb, along with Peterhansel and Walkner to score 46 points, 4 more than lbj and stuckthrottle. Congrats!
1st...Go Hard or Go Home (Coak)...46 pts
2nd...Portugal (lbj)...42 pts
3rd...Desertales (stuckthrottle)...42 pts
1st...Desertales (stuckthrottle)...86 pts
2nd...Quietus (Quietus)...81 pts
3rd...bastion (broliokas)...78 pts
Ok, gotta get some sleep now... GNight!:)
Oh and that talk about digital roadbooks - the idea seems cool, but I'm 100% sure ALL consumer devices would break under that constant bumps very quickly. They would need a device built especially for this, which is expensive as you already figured out... Maybe the best option would be those new-age helmets with HUDs inside (there's not that much shaking within a helmet i guess, otherwise your head would fall off), but they're not cheap too, so I think they'll be stuck with paper for quite some years still. Even though it might be a bit inconvenient at times, it's still a cheap and easy way out.
He's officially on the list.......
3 57 PHILIPPE CAVELIUS (FRA) KTM withdrawal
Dakar.com photos from stage 3, all of which have been reposted for easier viewing in the Dakar Photo F5rehose. almost 100 images for today's stage, it was hard picking my favorites!
#12 - LAIA SANZ (ESP) [KTM]
#300 - NASSER AL-ATTIYAH (QAT) / MATTHIEU BAUMEL (FRA) [MINI]
#321 - CYRIL DESPRES (FRA) / DAVID CASTERA (FRA) [PEUGEOT]
#11 - JORDI VILADOMS (ESP) [KTM]
#314 - SEBASTIEN LOEB (FRA) / DANIEL ELENA (MCO) [PEUGEOT]
almost 200 images added to the photo f5rehose in the past hour!
Not a goatee, a pimp patch.
Looking toward to tomurras stage.
I noticed Laia had a fall in the TVP footage... Didn't seem that bad ( I'm sure she's fine @Deadly99 ) but replies on FB to her video diary seem to indicate she's feeling down
I asked (begged) before the race kicked off and she didn't reply