2016 Pre-DAKAR: arrival, START podium ceremony/PROLOGUE and LEG 0 liason thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by RhinoVonHawkrider, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. beechum1

    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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    beechum1 Dandole Gas al Burro

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  3. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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    Actually, those photos are very telling. Look at the "Best Dakar" results and other than Laia, who is odd man out? JBB with a (relatively) lowly 7th place finish s best. I'd say this is his last, best chance and if he doesn't win or place on the podium, HRC needs to seriously consider their decision to continue hitching their wagon to the Barreda motor.
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  5. Myway

    Myway Long timer

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    Mentioned is that the start is 33 km out of Villazon.
    http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/dakar-2016-map_63274#10/-21.8373/-65.4744
    push dss icon
    There is the map for in description what you mean/found
    you could also place a sourcelink or photo, see ? by description
    basicly [[link url ]] [[link url | text]] {{photo url }} with photo place the source as a link url (bigger photo)
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  6. doyle

    doyle RallyRaidReview-ing

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    If you look at the police map though, their green line "enlaces" or Links in english goes north of the spike in the Argentine/Bolivian border to the west of Villazon. Also, it looks like the ASS is to the southeast of Pulacayo after traversing Taratara up to Ruta 5.
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  7. Hay Ewe

    Hay Ewe Just a Wannabe

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    ok, just starting to read up / follow.
    Am on leave this time - first NY and January at home for 3 years!
    I see the pRon has started - that picture of the Peugoet cars - mmmmm
    Thanks to all those that set up Team F5 and contributors
    cheers!
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  8. Myway

    Myway Long timer

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    But is this stage 7 ? from Uyuni to Salta the first part.

    The last part of stage 5 should be the first part HP horse piste of the Dakar. Photo region Uyuni is mountain area.
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    We must turn the gamma button on this photo.
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    Then you see the first part liason from Uyuni green line (Enlaces), than SS (Competencia), the blue one and from tupiza to villazon a green one.again liason
    Now set three marks Uyuni Villazon Tarija, and voila in the program.
    stage 7 has first part in mountain and stops around tupiza
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    stage 5
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    tehdutchie Long timer

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    You lot are seriously overdoing it.

    Go out and ride your bikes,or walk the dog.
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    Hay Ewe Just a Wannabe

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    Its Dark, we have had 8inches of rain in the last 24hrs, taking my dog to the veterinary for the final time on Saturday, this is just fine for me
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    No dog and no bike at the moment :D

    It's funny that they have them on their old team bikes in the photos :lol2
    HRC is known to keep the riders, the team structure and such. Which is very weird considering exactly what you say. No results. From Barreda's side is very understandable. In which team he could go next? :scratch
    From the managerial side, HRC has done everything they can to be the odd ones out. They bleed riders to KTM, which has a smaller budget (= smaller rider payment) and they do not seem able to pull together a team structure like KTM does. With Sam out, I am sure Matthias and Toby can pull the Job, and positive that KTM knows exactly when and what to say to the riders. Unless the young guns make it a cockfight early on and they loose control, then HRC's best bet is Speedy.
    I'd like to see him win like hell. He is a good rider, nice person and the view of him watching his bike on fire is engraved in my mind. I hope he pulls it together and his bike behaves for the rally. I'd like to see who will play Jeremias role this year if the sh[]t hits the fun... :patch
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  12. rmhrc628

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    I like speedy too.

    Honda def doesn't have the family concept going on
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  13. 640 Armageddon

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    Catanese's Twalcom ride. The Malle Moto way. I like the padded seat.

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    Dimitri,
    Can you estimate how much nav tower and all other gear on a typical Dakar setup weighs?
    (including all that is mounted on and around the handlebars)
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  15. 640 Armageddon

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    Hey Balkan,

    For a fixed tower, aluminium setup you are looking (depending on the design and equipment used) anything from 4-7 kilograms for a normal setup. That can easily reach double figures depending on what you put on the tower.(I have discussed with Dakar riders and there were 14-15 kilogram beasts there, having anything from clutch plates, radiator hoses, front sprockets, .... Half the bike on the worst possible place). That includes the iritrack, the antennae, roadbook, SpeedoCAP, Tripmasters, Roadbook, Roadbook plate, lights, fusebox. Minus Balise and spare parts that people like to carry on their tower. CF towers weigh nothing, but the KTM is immensely complex, I don't even wanna think how the HRC was produced. They've gone ballistic again with their integrated onto the tower connectors. At least KTM protects all the cabling inside the CF 'Π' section structure.
    For a lite tower, like the one Manuel is running, on the bars you are looking to 2-3 kilos depending on the gear chosen and the roabook plate design etc. At present no CF roadbook plates are present in factory bikes, only the ''prototype'' all in one unit from KTM.

    Sad news and the race has not started yet...

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    It was a bit silent from my side, but hey I'm there :wings It's been terribly busy here and I have a lot of stuff to do still, but took a few weeks of from work again and I will be here to bring you trackingdakar.nl.

    First thing to arrange: a nice server that will survive all you F5'ers who are eager to flame it. Some are there already, but please be patient... keep in mind I'm one year older and slower again too :D
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    640 Armageddon Xplorer Supporter

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    Hey hey hey :beer
    Now where is the PayPal button? :deal

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    cheekorollo Been here awhile

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    I have a feeling Laia will do well this year. She seems to be much happier at KTM and has done a lot more racing in the past year than she did with Honda. I hope she manages a top 5 result.

    Come on Jan 3, I can hardly wait!!!
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