2016 Pre-DAKAR: arrival, START podium ceremony/PROLOGUE and LEG 0 liason thread

Discussion in 'Racing' started by RhinoVonHawkrider, Nov 4, 2015.

  1. WIsixfitty

    WIsixfitty rock and roll the bones

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    It was not at all directed at you, just some finger ramblings.:1drink Although Robby is more of a WFO guy.:hide
  2. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    Wow, Mudboy has race pace...impressive
  3. wrk2surf

    wrk2surf on the gas or brakes

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  4. Bluebull2007

    Bluebull2007 Adventurer

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    How far to the bivouac?
  5. BC61

    BC61 Long timer

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    Looks like he's taken some driving lessons during the off season!
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  6. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    Not far
  7. Balkan Boy

    Balkan Boy Long timer

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    Heads up for EuroSport coverage >>> 23:00h CET.
    Or in about 90 minutes wherever you are. ​
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  8. Mudface

    Mudface Adventurer

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    toyota on first and dutch!

    about Robert van Pelt he really surprises me.

    top enduro guys , most are new to the game but Hans Vogels isn't and he is a former Top 10 WK enduro rider too, and dutch of course.
  9. davesupreme

    davesupreme grand poobah

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    i hate to start cheering for Robby right away in fear of jinxing his silly azz..... he can do that just fine by himself..... but....

    i would seriously love to see him kick some AZZ !!!! :super
  10. cameron110

    cameron110 Been here awhile

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    he has been working with Loeb (and they turned in IDENTICAL times)

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  11. barrier

    barrier Says who?

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    Someone mentioned re seeding!
    That ain't going to happen today.
    That's the whole idea of the prologue to seed yourself!
    If Laia has finished 108th then that is where she will start.
    I think re seeding is to reduce the danger when a top rider finds them self down the order through no fault of their own. I don't think it would be fair on other riders if it was applied after today's stage.
    Could be a difficult day for her tomorrow but I bet she comes through it with a dusty smile! I'm sure Ted will take up the challenge of scrutinising pictures of Laia after tomorrow!
  12. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    Her starting 108 (and assuming no reseeding) pretty much blows any chance at a podium.

    Only 11km, but 11 important km's :nod
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  13. chasbo

    chasbo Long timer Supporter

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    I agree and wonder what starting 51st will do to Gonc's chances
  14. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    Cyril starting before Peterhansel and Loeb....I love it :clap
  15. Bluebull2007

    Bluebull2007 Adventurer

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    One thing we know for certain is that things are never quite as they seem in the Dakar. I'd have my money on her being re-seeded.
  16. Balkan Boy

    Balkan Boy Long timer

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    Rememberer this guy?
    He saved Despres ass a few years ago.
    5 - DABROWSKI MAREK (POL) HILUX +00:00:05

    How about the the pretty boy that switched to cars too soon?
    21 - PRZYGONSKI JAKUB (POL) +00:00:26

    Polish bikers are handy at the wheel.
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  17. Anders Green

    Anders Green NASA Rally Sport

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    Here's the thing: how are you going to set a proper start order when you have 300+ racers? They said about a third of the riders are first timers, who knows how fast they are? Oh, sure, they can TELL you how fast they are... they'll all think they should be seeded about 11th. ;)

    I've been in charge of trying to figure start orders for "only" 150 racers. It's not easy. You are given next to no history on them, and you often have no data that's directly comparable from one racer to the next. (Racer A took second in X series, Racer B took third in Y series)

    So this 11k section is actually an very FAIR (which is important) and easy to measure (from the oganizer's point of view) and easy to get the data from in a timely fashion (since the start and finish are pretty close to each other) method of getting a snapshot of everyone's speed potential. And then you get an entire night to set up the start order for the next day.

    Essentially, this is qualifying. But it counts. ;)

    Anders
  18. Myway

    Myway Long timer

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    Watch Vogels he is better than van Pelt.
  19. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    Means he will be fighting for the next 3-7 days just to get back to the front. Anything can happen but his odds of being on the podium just went down, way down
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  20. solitary1

    solitary1 Long timer

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    she is starting 116th....could you quit with the negative waves,think positive thoughts:D:D:D
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