2016 Pre-DAKAR: arrival, START podium ceremony/PROLOGUE and LEG 0 liason thread

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  1. Balkan Boy

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    I agree with the principal of Prologue as a qualifier, but if you qualify badly you don't get burned some more with time deficit.
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  2. wrk2surf

    wrk2surf on the gas or brakes

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  3. Anders Green

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    re: 2 minute gaps:

    My guess is that this decision was "it's only going to use 15 minutes of the day, which is already an easy one. And it gets everyone in the right rhythm, and it keeps the operational procedures the same for every day."

    It's way easier to communicate "2 minute gaps for the priority riders, every day. EVERY DAY" than "oh, but we have an exception for the first day blah blah blah." It makes all the documentation easier for spectator guides, public schedules, safety schedules...

    That's my take as a rally organizer. :)

    Anders
  4. barrier

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    Go Brit, Christopher Cork!
    You just beat a four time world enduro champion, the KTM factory rider Antoine Meo on a fairly level playing field!
    Result!
  5. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    TP and Waulkner of in pos 15 & 16 tomorrow for Special Stage 1 (the last of the 2 minute start dust gaps)... as that turns out - probably just about ideal for pulling time up ahead to those that are opening the gravel tracks and laying down the fast lines... :nod
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  6. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    Sorry, I'm bummed..when she is doing well we see more of her in the media...which is nice :-)
  7. HogWild

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    Creed / Street (second Gordini) finished, 34th so far, 60 seconds down.
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  8. Bluebull2007

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    Helder earlier today.

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    DaveRMS reports in:

    Well, the boys are into the Parc Ferne by now. We're 44km into the service route now. Finally into the groove and it feels great. Of course, for their first Dakar, getting started the first day is the hardest part while still so many procedural unknowns. Now they will get into their groove too. Now it's just dirt bike riding, as Ian would say.

    On a personal note, I couldn't be more stoked to be here with my best riding buddy and two great riders and friends. We're having a ball, and it's just gonna get better, even as we overcome the obstacles to be thrown out way. Thanks Phil, for always having my back. Thanks Scott for trusting me to build our team together. And thanks, Ian, for the privilege and opportunity to try and get your fast young ass to the front of the pack!

    Best way to start a New Year!
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  9. BC61

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    With the preference of riders being not to open the stage there has to be an incentive for people to run hard during the prologue. The time given up today is minuscule in the grand scheme. They already gave the top riders the advantage today with a well burned in track. Bad day today is no ones fault but the riders and it's theirs to overcome.
  10. Bluebull2007

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  11. Iron Horse

    Iron Horse I Make Shit Up

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    Bummed too. That's a lot peeps to get past.
  12. Balkan Boy

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    41 - CORONEL TIM (NLD)
    +00:01:19

    49 - CORONEL TOM (NLD)
    +00:01:55

    The twins are in. I don't know how their SxS time relates to the top machinery, though.

    With this, I'm signing off for the night. :norton
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  13. Myway

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  14. BC61

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    I hear you but the days procedure is already backwards and different compared to a regular start and there were no side by starts. Not a big deal just appeared to be a bit of time waister. Guess they needed media time.
  15. troy safari carpente

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    17:20 : Barreda and Faria tied for the win!
    Joan Barreda (Honda) showed his ambition from the get-go. The official HRC rider posted a time of 6'27', tied with Ruben Faria's (Husqvarna), and hit the ground running in his first outing for the world's biggest maker.While Barreda is all smiles, his teammate and fellow pretender to the overall crown Paulo Gonçalves came up short in the first stage. A series of mechanical problems forced Gonçalves to make several stops, pushing him to fiftieth place, one minute behind Barreda. Toby Price, sixteenth at 18' from the winner, also had a lacklustre start. Frenchmen Pierre Alexandre Renet and Antoine Meo took it easy in their first Dakar special, finishing 119th and 106th, respectively. Their fellow countryman Adrien Van Beveren pulled off an awesome performance in his first Dakar special, holding the best time for quite a while and finishing eighth in the stage.

    1 006 BARREDA BORT (ESP) HONDA 000:06:27 00:00:00
    2 008 FARIA (PRT) HUSQVARNA 000:06:27 00:00:00 00:00:00
    3 007 RODRIGUES (PRT) YAMAHA 000:06:30 00:00:03 00:00:00
    4 042 VAN BEVEREN (FRA) YAMAHA 000:06:31 00:00:04 00:00:00
    5 019 METGE (FRA) HONDA 000:06:35 00:00:08 00:00:00
    6 047 BENAVIDES (ARG) HONDA 000:06:35 00:00:08 00:00:00
    7 023 FARRES GUELL (ESP) KTM 000:06:36 00:00:09 00:00:00
    8 004 QUINTANILLA (CHL) HUSQVARNA 000:06:37 00:00:10 00:00:00
    9 005 SVITKO (SVK) KTM 000:06:38 00:00:11 00:00:00
    10 011 VILADOMS (ESP) KTM 000:06:40 00:00:13 00:00:00
    11 018 BOTTURI (ITA) YAMAHA 000:06:41 00:00:14 00:00:00
    12 027 ARANA (ESP) HUSQVARNA 000:06:42 00:00:15 00:00:00
    13 009 CASTEU (FRA) KTM 000:06:43 00:00:16 00:00:00
    14 022 PIZZOLITO (ARG) HONDA 000:06:43 00:00:16 00:00:00
    15 014 WALKNER (AUT) KTM 000:06:44 00:00:17 00:00:00
    16 003 PRICE (AUS)

    17:37 : No pressure for Loeb
    Despite having all eyes on him, the nine-time world rally champion kept it cool in his Dakar debut. Sébastien Loeb finished the 11 km special in 6'17' after an uneventful start to the stage. With several favourites yet to cross the line, Sébastien Loeb is sitting in eighth place, tied with teammate Stéphane Peterhansel and his rival-cum-teammate in WRC, Mikko Hirvonen (Mini).

    1 311 TEN BRINKE (NLD), COLSOUL (BEL) TOYOTA 000:06:08 00:00:00
    2 303 SAINZ (ESP), CRUZ (ESP) PEUGEOT 000:06:11 00:00:03 00:00:00
    3 320 PONS (ESP), TORLASCHI (ARG) FORD 000:06:12 00:00:04 00:00:00
    4 300 AL-ATTIYAH (QAT), BAUMEL (FRA) MINI 000:06:13 00:00:05 00:00:00
    5 322 DABROWSKI (POL), CZACHOR (POL) TOYOTA 000:06:13 00:00:05 00:00:00
    6 304 ROMA (ESP), HARO BRAVO (ESP) MINI 000:06:15 00:00:07 00:00:00
    7 315 HIRVONEN (FIN), PERIN (FRA) MINI 000:06:15 00:00:07 00:00:00
    8 301 DE VILLIERS (ZAF), VON ZITZEWITZ (DEU) TOYOTA 000:06:17 00:00:09 00:00:00
    9 302 PETERHANSEL (FRA), COTTRET (FRA) PEUGEOT 000:06:17 00:00:09 00:00:00
    10 314 LOEB (FRA), ELENA (MCO) PEUGEOT 000:06:17 00:00:09 00:00:00
    11 321 DESPRES (FRA), CASTERA (FRA) PEUGEOT 000:06:17 00:00:09 00:00:00
  16. misc

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    Yeah... I'm affraid we have to get used to this. I was wondering what I should do with the Prologue... my feeling told me that it was stage 0, but as ASO counts it as stage 1 with the effect that the real stage one is stage 2 in the url (hmm...) I did the same... Dunno how confusing this is, but it had least impact, probably for them too.
  17. Bluebull2007

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    Misc, I would accumulate the times for tomorrow, and see if they do at the end of the stage. If they don't (which I doubt based on what has been said here), then it would be an easy thing to pull out again? :scratch
  18. BC61

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    CAn you add #337 Creed/Street to your tracker?
  19. Bluebull2007

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    Early days I know, but I was rather amused that Jakub Przygonski is in front of Robbieeee :jack
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  20. Deadly99

    Deadly99 Fast and Far

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    With the the last minute bailout from Peru...I see this as an easy out to fill one of the "missing days" as there was no mention of a prologue before the "new route" was announced.