2017 TAT, Ocean to Ocean in 12 days

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by KenCM, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. KenCM

    KenCM Been here awhile Supporter

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    That puts it in essentially the same location where the last one got whacked (maybe a little higher?).
    Not sure there's a better location.
    Inside a pocket was suggested and that might afford it a bit more shock protection.
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    Awesome adventure to follow along with...I really enjoyed
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    Down the front of your pants?
    It's a location I rarely manage to impact in a fall, yet at the same time, the first place I check for damage.
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    When a vendor provides especially good service, I make a point of mentioning it.
    I called Giant Loop about my zipper and they are sending me another harness right away.
    They merely asked that I send the old harness back after I get the new one so that if it is repairable they can sell it in their garage sale area.
    Their number was easy to find on their website, a human answered, and she took care of everything within a few minutes.
    Great experience!
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    Hmmm. I tend not to put anything hard anywhere near that area.

    I was thinking the armpit (tongue in cheek).
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    I was thinking maybe in the camelback? Even if you fall on it maybe the bladder would help cusion it. Unless bladder gets empty then I suppose hard things in pack could be bad.
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    OK, I've waited a day and she hasn't said anything, so I don't think she's checking this thread any longer.:rayof
    So I might actually go to the trouble of bringing a GoPro if we do this because your crashes are at least on par with mine - if not more entertaining.
    This could happen.
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  8. KenCM

    KenCM Been here awhile Supporter

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    I wear Klim Jackets with built-in hydration - so no external hydration pack.
    I ordered the Giant Loop gizmo that partially wraps it with what looks to be a spongy material.
    That may also have been a one in a thousand crash too because I certainly haven't ever face/chest planted like that in the many dozens of crashes I've had.
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    I did get the aerostich fixed so it'll be good to go for several more encounters with the earth
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    Oh Lordy!
    Beavis and Butt Head Do America Part 2
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    Cool idea! I'm going to make one out of light weight fishing line with two bobbers, maybe at 18" and 30", and a 1/2 oz sinker. Maybe even bring a hook if I want to eat fish that night!
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    So was your mph average similar and you did more time on the bike each day? Or did your ave speed go up much?

    I like the concept you are going after, but it is hard on man & machine. You could go supported (think Dakar), so mechanics could work on the bike at night while you slept! :) Imagine that, you wake up, fresh tires, clean bike, all previous day damage corrected. :)

    I'm also thinking "TAT Booster" teams. Say a person focuses on Oregon, gets the route all sorted & dialed, best route with current work arounds (from riding it like 2-3 times). Then they are queued up for your arrival. They meet up with you, and you ride together thru the Oregon sections. No wasted time on reroutes, no ambiguity on "drive thru the logging/sawmill area or not?", or towns with no open gas stations, etc.
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    Wouldn't that take the adventure out of it?
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    Actually....there is something to be said about this idea. It is still an adventure.

    Back in the late '90s, a rider named Ron Ayres was wanting to break the time/distance record for the ride to all 48 states, in under 10 days. He decided to include Alaska in there, making it 49 states, and wanted to do it in under 10 days, if I remember correctly.

    He laid out his route, and once it was announced, other members of the IBA stepped up to act as escorts for him through some of the states.
    Example: I met up with him as he approached Boise, ID, from the East, and I escorted him through the rest of Idaho, all of Oregon, all of Washington, and up to the Canadian border, where he headed for Hyder, Alaska.

    The beauty of that, as stated above by "usedtobefast", is that the rider that knows that area very well, and knows the immediately current road conditions.....can lead the other rider through their area, with first hand knowledge.

    Now, if a rider wants to take a couple months to do the TAT across the entire continent, then he doesn't need an escort. But in the case with ken & Garrett, where they wanted to "attack" the TAT, and blast across the country in 12 days......local escorts could have been helpful.

    It is just another way to be helpful to other ADVRiders, and to meet other ADVRiders.
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    Interesting ideas.

    Since the ATs don't have an hour meter, I'll need to use the gps tracks to calculate average speed and it might be a few days before I have the time to do that.
    But I can say that I am confident that we rode faster on average than we could have on smaller bikes.
    It all comes down to most of the terrain not being terribly difficult - the big bikes eat that up.
    And on the few percent that is difficult terrain, the big bikes aren't much slower than the small bikes when the small bikes are loaded.

    I believe more skilled and knowledgeable riders would not require support.
    Our mechanical issues resulted from ignorance and crashes (with the exception of the first flat tire from picking up that nail).
    While you need to clean the mud from forks plus clean and oil the chain, there is no tire change nor oil change required on the big bikes and I suspect the tires are also less susceptible to damage.

    We demonstrated to ourselves that using big bikes for this requires minimal maintenance.
    Garrett even carried his Tractionator home after changing to street tires - claiming there's still a good 4K miles left on it.

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    Depends how you get your kicks I suppose.
    That's more than I would personally want because the navigation and dealing with the unexpected is indeed part of the adventure for me.
    But, if I had access to that kind of information the day before, I'd sure like that!
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    Ken, Kind of surprised that you like the AT better than the lighter 450 KTM used last year. I would think the KTM could go as fast as needed on pavement and be much better in the mud and trails. I'm planning to ride my KTM 500 EXCF on the TAT next year with around 50 lbs max load in Mosko Moto 40L+ bags, but also have looked at the AT. I was curious about the DCT and glad you had the first-hand experience on the downsides to it. One other question, would you do the first part of your journey from Georgia again or start in NC next time? I'm from around Orlando and will either ride to GA to start or truck it to NC and start from there.
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    Just because "we" would not attempt what Ken and Garrett did, does not mean it should not be done. I was a naysayer, but was really wanting you two to prove me wrong. And you know What? I bet you would have if your trail was dry.
    So to accomplish this feat, it's going to come down to timing and a lack of Mr Murphy. If I was gonna try it, it would be mid to late Sept....."Charlie Mike"