2018-2019 Africa Twin Adventure Sports

Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by cabanza, Nov 6, 2017.

  1. TequilaSqueela

    TequilaSqueela Been here awhile

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    That's really clever. Damn.
  2. DSM8

    DSM8 Where fun goes to die....

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    Hmm I just used brute force and my gorilla like neighbor helped.
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  3. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    Greetings.

    What do you'all think about the ATAS as a touring bike?

    I love the large tank, and the commanding views.

    I do not mind the 21" front in the curves. I'd take the 21" front as better security if and when I hit some sand or lose gravel.

    Just how much top heavy is she over the base model?

    I could always just carry more juice and be fine with the vanilla AT.

    I would not be doing any off road exploration, so I do not need the DCT to help prevent stalls.

    Edit: Looks like heated grips is standard. Nice.
    What is a AC charging socket? Is it in addition to the 12 volt socket that is standard on the base model?


    thanks for reading.

    There are also 3 levels of Power and Engine Braking available.

    TOUR employs the maximum Power (1), mid-range Engine Braking (2) and high HSTC (6).



    URBAN uses mid-level Power (2) and Engine Braking (2) and high HSTC (6).



    GRAVEL mode allows the lowest level of Power (3) and EB (3) with high HSTC (6).

    For best fuel economy would gravel be the best? These mods are for the manual, right?
  4. leethal

    leethal 3 wheel Monarch #37

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    Go the DCT....best touring option available.
  5. twinrider

    twinrider Pass the catnip

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    I had a DCT, it constantly shifted when I didn’t want it to. Got annoying enough that I’d leave it in manual mode for everything except droning through city traffic. Got stuck on a hill once, bike rolled backwards because there was no way to lock the rear wheel in gear and the parking brake couldn’t hold it. The icing on the cake was when it stopped downshifting one day, stranding me. Now I’m a firm believer in simple MTs, add a Rekluse if you want to reduce clutch work.
  6. Owen Snell

    Owen Snell Been here awhile

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    The DCT modes on the ATAS mean that you can find one that suits your style. I just leave mine in S2. I would definitely test ride the DCT before buying to see if it works for you.
  7. twinrider

    twinrider Pass the catnip

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    S2 was also my favorite auto mode, that’s what I used around town and other chill riding.
  8. swimmer

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    Given the same acceleration rates and terminal velocity, the fuel economy will be the same for each mode.
  9. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    That would be good to prevent stalls.

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    What is the kick stand like on the ATAS?

    I guess I'm about a 33" seem or so. About 5' 10" or so.
    If the kick stand is easy to access, I should be ok. The first gen S10 had a bad one.

    This is also an option:
    I would need to practice this before pushing. And with touring gear attached.
  10. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    https://www.cycleworld.com/2018-honda-africa-twin-vs-2018-honda-africa-twin-adventure-sports/

    Which One Should You Buy: Africa Twin vs. Adventure Sports?
    The obvious buyer of an Adventure Sports is someone looking to do more long-distance riding or someone interested in the gnarlier side of off-road exploration. Sure, added crash protection and suspension travel are nice but, as strange as it sounds, the most notable improvement for the Adventure Sports in the dirt is perhaps the riding position while standing. Honda didn't have a base-model 2018 Africa Twin available, but I rode a '17 Africa Twin back to back with an Adventure Sports on dusty Arizona roads and it was remarkably easier to control the Adventure Sports from out of the saddle. Relying on that model’s taller handlebar and fatter footpegs, I felt far more in control than the hunched-over, bar-in-lap feeling I got while on the standard model. The taller seat on the Adventure Sports (adjustable from 35.4–36.2 inches) may prove challenging for some, but as a 6-foot-tall rider, I wasn’t as intimidated as I expected.

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    Looks like the AS model would be for me.
  11. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    I also can’t help but praise the fuel range of the Adventure Sports. I probably geek out over big fuel-range numbers more than the average motorcyclist, but there’s no denying the utility or convenience of riding 300 miles between fuel stops. Our test loop in Prescott was a perfect example. After about 160 miles of zipping around dirt roads, cruising on the highway, and giving the throttle a healthy amount of attention, I still ended the day with half a tank of gas and an average of 49 mpg. That, my friends, is awesome. And it immediately makes me dream of the trips I could take, or places I could explore, unfettered by the typical constraints of fuel range.
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    Great to read.
    I could get 59mpg easily.

    That is fine for the Dempster Highway and Dalton and such.
  12. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    I got to set on a three bikes today.

    Low seat base AT
    High seat ATAS
    Regular seat base AT.

    Take aways:.
    I was shocked out how the base model with a low seat was so easy to get off the kick stand when seated. I could see me getting one of these with the low seat height and the DCT. This could give me more flexibility to go off into more dirt. Granted, there was most likely no battery or fuel.

    Regular Seat with the base model. Did feel harder to get the bike righted when on the seat, but still surprisingly agile.

    High Seat ATAS. All in all not too bad. I could get her off the kick stand when seated, so that is huge, but it was not easy. I could not do that on the R1200GSA years ago.
    Granted, no juice was inside.
    But,
    I had sneakers on. Later I would have boots.
    The seat can be lowered .8"
    The suspension will settle about an 1" after a few thousand miles.
    The pegs are big enough for me to get off the bike at a slow crawl.
    I did not think the handle bars were that much higher than the base model. I guess the seat height does that.

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    I think in a three way battle royal:
    DL1000 pre 2020
    CRF1000L pre 2020
    S10ES

    I think the ATAS beats the Suzuki.
    Cheap fuel
    Heated grips
    more juice
    more commanding views
    21" front for extra insurance when on forest roads
    under belly protection in case I hit something on the tarmac
    Rear ABS can be switched off when on on jeep trails, if that ever happens.

    The real fight is the ATAS vs the S10ES.
    I guess it would come down to finding a used 2014+ S10 near by. They can be had for $8,000-11,000!
  13. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    Hello

    Who here went from a standard AT to a ATAS and noticed an improved in road mannners?
    The forks are bigger and stiffer too in the AS model.

    Thanks.
  14. DSM8

    DSM8 Where fun goes to die....

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    I rode the standard and bought the ATAS.
    The main thing I felt was more stiffness in the suspension but the additional travel made the bike more wallowy.
    Stiffening up the springs etc took out the wallow and since I set it to ride more like a motard it rails on the corners.
  15. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    Thanks for the continued feedback.

    Does the 2019 ATAS come with tubeless tyres.?

    I do not believe so.
    Edit: no she does not. Which is fine. My first touring MC, the MIGHTY DR did not.
    Never was an issue. Hell, on the way back from my first 35 day deep South tour, I road hundreds of miles on a flat. My mechanic when he put on a fresh rear said the tube had turned to dust.

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    Honda most likely knew how they were going to work this back in 2014 or so.

    2016 :AT base model so no TC and ABS.

    Just 4 years later they have the new 2020 ATAS that equals the RGS.

    Smart team.
  16. The_Precious_Juice

    The_Precious_Juice 2019 DL650XT Touring

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    Turns out that Honda was working the market very well.

    But, I'll take heated grips over c.c.
  17. DSM8

    DSM8 Where fun goes to die....

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    Heated grips can be added a number if ways to any motorcycle dont let that be your sole decision point
    The factory grips were so fat on mine I tore them off and replaced with aftermarket that are much narrower in diameter
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