Angola...? Funny how things change huh...? During my school days I vividly remember hearing/reading news reports about the civil war/conflict that had raged there for decades... the place still has one of the highest general population life expectancy and infant mortality rates of anywhere on the African continent apparently... I have no doubt that the southern part of Africa (including Namibia, Mozmbique, South Africa etc.) has a wonderful assortment of terrain and landscapes that would offer a wonderful canvas upon which to conduct a rally... But in regards to the "running out of other peoples backyards" issue brought up in the DAKAR route planning thread and here previously... how do we think the the ASO will reconcile this aspect...? Affluent western culture competitors and factory teams with budgets of seven figures and up... racing across places where Y2K IT problems, or which version of the iphone to purchase, were never a real concern for the bulk of the population. Etienne and the ASO have been plagued with media attention/critique during their time in South America on enviromental, economic, natural disaster, archeological and natural topigraphical/geographical - even politcal matters... The DAKAR rally left Africa (the NW Sahara region) in 2008 because of terrorist threat/politcal climate (but the socio economic impact issue had been bubbling under the surface for the last five or six years of that era). Would going to places like Angola and Mozambique (today) be a bit like getting out of the frying pan... and jumping into the fire...? I dunno... That's why I am asking - a genuine/legitimate question - from folk that lived or been there recently - my last time in that part of the world was 1992/93.