2019 Indian Chieftan

Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by MHaz01, Sep 7, 2018.

  1. alekkas

    alekkas Long timer

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    I hear what you are saying. But years go by and well treated / worm leather just gets better and better. I am 53 and can fit again into the leather my wife bought me for my 21st b day. Man. Aged leather just so cool. So right and badass.
  2. 2tallnwide

    2tallnwide Long timer

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    I’m not much of a cruiser guy, even when I had them never cared for the fringe, tassels n such. But if it makes other folks happy good for them.

    I just like things I don’t have to care for, that hold up in the sun, rain, and I can rinse off with a pressure washer. :D “Badass” to me is my buddy Ed riding from Toronto to Birmingham to meet up with us at the Vintage festival for one day. Then riding back to Toronto. :D
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  3. ragtoplvr

    ragtoplvr Long timer

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    I have always like Harley, just not the right ride for me at this time. I go to Bikes, BBQ and Blues every year and do the demo rides, none has tripped my trigger so far but they are getting better every year.
    You take the Harley demo rides unescorted, they have a course marked with arrows, and if you miss an arrow, they really don’t care as long as you get back in pretty quick.
    BUT the V Rod has so much power:photog:rofl That those rides are escorted to keep you safe. OK, I can see having an escort on a V Max but a V Rod?:imaposer
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  4. Kevm

    Kevm Eternal Optimist

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    FWIW I've gone to the York open house off and on for decades and:

    1. All HARLEY model demos at the factory have been unescorted there since I started going in the 90s (right after they stopped using the test track for demos and started on the street).

    2. All Buell demos were always escorted. And some completely unskilled rider managed to dump one right in front of me on one of the first of those demos I ever took in the 90s.

    3. When the Harley demo truck comes to local dealers they usually require all rides to be escorted, though that might vary with location.

    Anyway, my swag from all these experiences would be that I don't think the Vrod rides were escorted for "your" protection so much as to prevent ass-hatery.

    And I don't recall being on an Indian, JAPanInc. or a BMW demo without escorts other than from various dealer stock.
  5. fldfcnscsnss

    fldfcnscsnss Been here awhile

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    Years ago I was looking to rent a V Rod or find a dealer to let me take an non-escorted extended test ride. I think there were a dealers out there at the time that would allow it, but nothing local. I just remember one local HD sales manager laughing and shaking his head- "yeah right....not the v-rod! What do you think I'm stupid or something?" Give me a break. I just wanted to know how bad the clamshell position would be after a couple hours...wasn't planning to do burnouts.

    To be fair, I also remember a Yamaha demo event years ago when the FZ09 came out, and one of the Yammie employees wanted to talk to all the FZ09 riders separately and threatened us with getting kicked off the bike if we did anything stupid. He didn't seem to care about the R6....I think there was an R1 demo bike too. It was weird, but funny.
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  6. rat

    rat Dirty Hippie

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    I don't wear leather. Not my thing. I should... we all should... but I don't.

    However, there's no such thing as too much leatherwork. A well-made, hand built leather seat and bags? Perfection. Screw the factory made leather goods... find yourself a good leatherworker and drop the cash. You'll never regret it.
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  7. ragtoplvr

    ragtoplvr Long timer

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    The throttle on the early FZ09 was so snatchy, it was hard to ride smooth without a lot of practice and concentration. Like it was tuned to wheelie. They had many problems.

    Rod
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  8. rauchman

    rauchman Been here awhile

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    Yesterday morning I drove my buddy to pick up his 2016 BMW R1200RT that was traded in at a local Indian dealer. While paperwork was being signed I walked the showroom. They just got 3 of these in that morning. I liked them. Not one was consistent with the other as far as the mix of matte and gloss black engine parts. My buddy and I both agreed the gloss black parts did not have the luxury finish of HD's Tuxedo Black. Almost looked like spray paint. Overall, aesthetically, it looked nicer in person than in pics. They look more industrial than HD's SG and way more to my taste vs. the regular Chieftan. If I were in the market for this type of bike, I'd at least test ride it. I plopped my butt on one and the seat seemed pretty comfy, rider triangle was agreeable, but most notable was how relatively easy it came off the stand....was surprised how easy.

    As a reference, I have a modded 2013 HD Switchback and have test ridden the 2017 RK, SG & RG.
  9. Rollin'

    Rollin' does it come in black? Supporter

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    The more it looks like a Harley the better it sells?

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  10. MHaz01

    MHaz01 I Used To Be Faster

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    I stopped at a local Indian dealer and looked at one of these. Okay, it looks nice, and all, but I don't get the point. Why build a model that doesn't distinguish itself from its direct competitor in some major, visible manner?

    It's like they renamed the Thunderstroke 111 engine the GL1818.

    (Unrelated, the saleswoman at the dealer took pains to explain how the hot-leg issues were reduced by moving the "cadillac converder" (her exact words, repeated several times) farther down the exhaust system. Dealers, sometimes interesting tattoos and bouncy floppy parts aren't enough; you've actually got to teach salespeople about how shit works.)
  11. 72 Yamaha RD350

    72 Yamaha RD350 Been here awhile

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    The "bouncy floppy parts" don't have anything to do with it. I was test driving a new car recently that had a 1.8L naturally aspirated engine. The 60-ish year old male salesman who has literally been selling cars his entire life kept telling me it had a 1.4L turbo and how great that was. While anyone can make a mistake, it doesn't take 2 seconds to read the window sticker for which engine the car had in it. I didn't correct him.

    I have noticed an increase in female sales personnel at motorcycle dealerships near me... come to think of it, I purchased my Wee2 from a female salesperson in 2017. I don't see gender as a problem. I tend to have 20-30 years more life experience than sales people regardless of their gender.

    https://www.google.com/imgres?imgur...bzeAhUKPa0KHenyCcIQMwhHKAIwAg&iact=mrc&uact=8
  12. tennmoto

    tennmoto Been here awhile Supporter

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    I did test ride an Indian Vintage. I thought these were just to huge to be practical but I enjoyed the ride, it handled
    Well and felt good, definitely American. But I just think they look to gaudy and big. But that’s me, I don’t get the
    Whole bagger movement either. A Sportster is fine with me or a Dynaglide.
  13. MHaz01

    MHaz01 I Used To Be Faster

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    Neither do I see gender as a problem. In the instance I described, though, the salesperson admitted that she had never ridden on a motorcycle and didn't hold a motorcycle endorsement on her driver's license. She said this and more while leaning over the bike affording me a view. Not being a rube about the sales process I looked her in the face and continued asking general questions about the Indian.

    Like you, I'm often old enough to be a salesperson's dad, maybe a granddad. And because I'm an enthusiast, I tend to know more about the motorcycles or cars that I'm looking at in a showroom. I really don't expect expertise, but some product knowledge is basic to the salesperson's job.
  14. 72 Yamaha RD350

    72 Yamaha RD350 Been here awhile

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    I agree with that. The woman who sold me my Wee2 was not a rider but that didn't matter in the least. I made her an offer, she got the offer approved by the sales manager, and knew how to fill out the paperwork. At some point in the process I noticed the male Finance Manager (who was a rider with an endorsement) had identified the bike as a "Kawasaki VStrom 650". I kindly pointed out this error, which he appreciated because it would have significant downstream consequences. Everyone makes mistakes. Some people are not detail oriented. The young girl staffing the parts counter at this dealership was top notch and I don't hesitate to rely on her when I need parts or accessories.

    I was checking out bikes at a dealership on Saturday while it was cold and wet outside. It's a sizable independent BMW/Ducati/Triumph/KTM/Can-Am/Honda/Yamaha/Polaris powersports dealership I've been too many times and I was a bit surprised when I was approached by a young female salesperson - having never seen a female salesperson at this no sales pressure dealership before. Now, with that many manufacturers and products I don't expect any one salesperson to know it all.

    Yea, I'm at grandpa age but not official as of this writing and hoping not to be for a few years more.
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