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Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by Nici, May 29, 2019.
There's no keyless.
There are 3 models.
1100 cc,a bigger mufler and a GDI engine.Emissions getting tighter and Honda must follow.Also there is the psychological limit of the 100 hp...
Let's see if the Honda GDI car engine problems will appear on the AT.
If so , tubes ,keys and bad fork seals will not be problems anymore
None of those “issues”are related discreetly to GDI. The only significant GDI specific problem is carbon build up, and the massive amounts of 2.4l GDI engines without that problem seem to indicate that Honda has the injection part in hand at least.
Why am I even responding to a speculation thread, they always get so dumb.
Here, precautionary practice is based on experience. For those that still like their bike for long distance, and there are a few that will ride more than 80,000km per year, repeating a long sit in the middle of anywhere waiting for a truck is not something they want to repeat. Anecdotes from one or a dozen are not enough. BMW did not flip the driveshaft from right to left because the bike might handle better. BMW had to do something to make the public think the problems have been corrected. It appears to be true. But I'll keep my Honda.
Yep and the parts and 3rd party companies just love people like you buying lots of their products which you don't need but 'just in case'.
Not quite true.
In fact, some of what you say is in my view completely misguided. Other bits not misguided at all.
But feel free to believe what you will.
And that problem (I assume you're taking about carbon buildup on the intake valve) is more industry wide than specific to Honda. The fix could be as simple as rerouting one hose (from the PCV vave) to a catchment tank. It might not fix errthang but it might ameliorate most of it.
Usually an issue with diesel, not petrol
Carbon buildup on GDI engines was endemic to the Euro small turbos (esp VW/Audi). Haven’t seen anything about the small Honda engines having that problem yet (the 2.4 4-cyl went GDI in 2013).
Usually. Not only.
For some, that's a reason not to chose the bike.
yeah but many WILL choose it with such features. I've had a Yamaha Xmax 300 for the last 2 years with keyless, no issues at all and great that you can open seat, fuel flap etc without fumbling around for a key. My next bike will have keyless, C-ABS and TFT screen, CC, TPMS. I also would love to have the rear radar that warns of vehicles travelling at high speed behind you when you are at a stop. I remember the same moaning about ABS when it surfaced, same old fear of change that many will always have and which in many other aspects has strangled an held back society for so long.
Heh. Can think of a few things that might have held back society. I wouldn't count lack of keyless ignition among them. But no prob, to each his own.
not referring to keyless in that context, read the comment - "many other aspects" as in beyond the world of riding a bike.
I also forgot, I would love to have semi-active suspension again after owning a KTM 1290SA, what a brilliant piece of technology that gave a sublime ride.
2 or 4 depending on how you look at it.
There's a basic model, very few rider aids and a standard tank.
The larger tanked versions have two models; the upper end one has all the bells and whistles on it with fancy suspension.
Standard with or without DCT
Adventure with or without DCT