2020 CRF 1100L Africa Twin Adventuresports Concept

Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by Nici, May 29, 2019.

  1. BronNowo

    BronNowo Been here awhile

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    I see on Honda site even 2 versions of Adventure Sports model, regular and ES - so price game has started :)
    Now BMW can really worry about their big GS sales...
  2. lowerlattitudes

    lowerlattitudes LowerLattitudes

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    A base AT20 comes with cruise, spoked wheels, etc. You need to drop 20K+ on a GS to get those features. Not feein it...
  3. cabanza

    cabanza Smooth is Fast

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  4. cabanza

    cabanza Smooth is Fast

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  5. knine

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    Price is a little higher on the high spec model than I would like, but I like the additional features. This will make my new bike purchase a little harder next year. The price will probably be just right towards the end of the season, Africa Twins get discounted a lot in my area.
  6. cabanza

    cabanza Smooth is Fast

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  7. cblais19

    cblais19 Long timer

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    The AS SE seems to be featured and priced to compete directly with the new Versys 1k. Still, what, $6k cheaper then a Premium Package GS?
  8. B-Nads

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    I love the look of the standard model, but that screen looks low for road miles...
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  9. BronNowo

    BronNowo Been here awhile

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    ok we have adventure offering for rich now where are bikes for normal people? I mean Transalp Adventure Sports :)
  10. MillennialFalcon

    MillennialFalcon Improvement starts with self

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    If Honda doesn't address the fork issue with the base model (that we don't even know for sure is addressed with the AS model) we're going to have 5 model years of potential fork issues on the base model for sure. Plenty of folks think the issue is overstated but we know the forks on the base model are CR250 forks from the late 1980s-early 90s designed for a bike half the weight, and the AS versions are just slightly better hopefully to the point of at least avoiding the substantial wear and symptomatic stiction many folks - who have gone looking for it - have found. The proof in the pudding is that suspension shops have written about the problem, it's no sasquatch. This sasquatch just might not be present in your forks.

    No electronic doo-dads are going to fix any of that if the fundamental design and materials are the same. Calling these new electronics "re-arranging deck chairs on the Titanic" might be a bit dramatic but as an owner of my own big red pig with fork issues I used my own money to "fix" (still no definitive "put it to bed" fix - just hopes and prayers after spending $1k), it definitely feels like Honda is fine-tuning the seating instead, you know, avoiding the iceberg.

    The list of features I'd do without just to get decent suspension - ever better, great suspension (48 mm enduro-spec): ABS, TC, CC, fairing and windshield, gas tank capacity, twin front discs, fake plastic handguard, sooper dooper dash w/connectivity features, etc. I'm in the "twin engine+enduro wheels and suspension+nothing else" crew. They wouldn't even have to drop additional weight after getting rid of these things, I'm OK with where it's at already knowing it's no KTM. I do like the passenger pegs and seat tho.
  11. Tharaphita

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    you change it. ATAS looks like fat starbucks version. Where the f are you going with this freight train lol.
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  12. BronNowo

    BronNowo Been here awhile

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    so they're not supposed to be all starbucks models? I'm confused...
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  13. appliance57

    appliance57 Long timer Supporter

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  14. appliance57

    appliance57 Long timer Supporter

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    Seriously not competing with the versys in any known capacity.
  15. MillennialFalcon

    MillennialFalcon Improvement starts with self

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    If people take the Versys and Multistrada down dirt roads (hint: they do - we're on ADVRider), the AT competes and beats these bikes the faster you go and the rougher it gets. 21" front rim, suspension, COG, overall balance, these win offroad.
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  16. Socalstrom

    Socalstrom Been here awhile

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    It’s the CB500X and it’s $6,900
  17. MillennialFalcon

    MillennialFalcon Improvement starts with self

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    Dig thru your couch cushions then you can afford the Versys X 300. Do it twice and you can afford a V-strom XT 650. AT is for folks who have leather couches that swallow up credit cards and $100 bills, dawg.
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  18. CosX

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    and with the Rally Raid goodies added... it's a sweet ride.
  19. BronNowo

    BronNowo Been here awhile

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    sorry, but it's not IT.
  20. CanineCombatives

    CanineCombatives the sound of inevitability

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    It works great.
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