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Discussion in 'Road Warriors' started by david61, Jan 28, 2021.
Those exhaust "cans" look grotesque!
Just 187.7bhp! We're all disappointed!!
Engine internals are all strenghtened and redesigned to take a lot more power. So basicly a tune and new cans and she will be good to go well over 200 bhp. I would still love that they went with a 6 cylinder turbocharged version.
I never was a fan of the busa styling. I didn't like the "organic" curves and bulbous nature of the lines. This new one is a huge improvement. I dig it. Despite being somewhat down on power, it looks like it's gained in a more usable range.
I wish I could have ridden one of the these before my back and neck turned into a rusty chain.
I, for one, am glad they did not obsess over HP numbers. Those that do wouldn't be happy with whatever came stock anyway, judging by how many go nuts with the old ones. That's what the aftermarket is for. I like that they focused on smoothing out the mid-range torque even more, which should make this bike even more buttery smooth on the road at sane speeds.
I don't much care for is the dual exhaust. The cans look okay, but having one on the left side blocks chain maintenance and adds weight. Euro5 emissions no doubt had a hand in that.
Strange that MPG went down substantially compared to the old one. 42 vs. 50 miles per imperial gallon previous gen. Hmm...
As warmovers go, this one should have happened three years ago. I mean, it's fine: it looks nice and it has a good electronics package and there's no fiddly maintenance surprises like with the Kawasaki supercharged motors. But this many years after gen 2 it feels a bit lame
22 minute infomercial
Looks like the bro who came up with the idea of a chrome accent rocks a fro!
Same cc's? I guess you can't expect too much from the Japs.
Bold new styling! Bold new price!
Not going to be a negative nancy. It looks the best of all though.
The usual comments are about to start how the old model is better than the new model without seeing one in the metal let alone riding one. I had a ZZR 1400 and this looks fantastic, modern and made with better materials and design, with up to date electronics.
The site updated
No price yet
Just going to post up that link!
Bold new price: $18,599.00 USD.
It looks great. Lots of neat little features. Not over the top with bluetooth, car play, blah blah. Excellent dash with two dials and also a TFT. It seems like a flagship bike for people that just want a bike and not all the distractions you get with a car.
Too bad I have 0 use for a hyper-tourer.
Ok, missing from the list....
(most of the touring oriented stuff)
I wonder what the accessories page will offer
The visordown video already mentioned that heated grips are an option, at least in Europe.
Suzuki gets a lot of positive press for continuing to use mechanical keys. Not everyone likes key fobs. I don't care one way or the other since the experience is very similar.
Electronic suspension would be nice but would drive the price up more.
The other stuff seem like features of touring bikes, not hyperbikes/sportbikes. The haybusa has been used as a touring bike but that's never been Suzuki's goal for the bike. I'm sure aftermarket will pick up the slack there. You always buy a Suzuki for the engine and frame then tune/mod/farkle to your needs from there. They produce amazing engines and frames wrapped in bargain parts to meet a price point.
I'm really disappointed to see such a drop in fuel economy. I understand Euro 5 is more about particle emissions for health and pollution reasons but a decrease in fuel economy means an increase in carbon output, less touring range, and higher operating costs. It will be interesting to see if aftermarket cans and tuning can bring back the MPG. Personally I love the look of the swordlike dual exhausts. Very 1980s muscle bike meets 90s sportbike.
That's a lot of money. Not sure I could justify that, when I have a Gen 2 in mint condition which only cost me $6,700. Spend three times the money, get a tiny fraction more performance.
I do like the bike though. Maybe some day, on the used market.
Bluetooth connectivity never works correctly in the long term anyway, and often doesn't work great right away. I find it universally annoying to use, even in a car. Then just wait until your device is more than 2 years old!
Key Fobs too.
The rest of the stuff would be nice, but forgivable at the right price point.
A well tuned traditional suspension is nicer than a poorly tuned electronic suspension. YMMV
And a brand new 2020 can be had for around $13,000. The new bike looks amazing but does it look $6,000 better than Gen 2?
It does look better but I doubt it performs much different. Does the Gen 2 have traction control or just ABS after 2013?
I don't know who is in charge of their marketing but it pairs poorly with the little "evolution" set of screen captures that essentially prove to you you're buying the same thing you could have purchased for the last twenty years.
These guys are going to run into the same problem HD has, which is that the used market is a quarter of the cost for more or less exactly the same thing.
The price isn't on that page.
But here it is: https://suzukicycles.com/sportbike
And here: https://suzukicycles.com/sportbike/2022/hayabusa