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Discussion in 'Australia' started by Precis, Nov 19, 2020.
Well, its big. No doubt would make a great tourer.
And they've killed of the WR250R ?
Upgraded lights. Extra fuel range. A pipe. Fix the bloody seat.
Isn't that what owners do anyway?
Another overweight behemoth, just what we need.
It is a fake
... but at least it does have on of these...
... a four spot T7 inspired headlight.
It's the big Y's new millennia version of "the beak"... just put one on any model, and instantly transforms it into an "Adventure" bike.
Along with the 1250GS Adventure, 1100 Africa Twin, 1200 Triumph, 1290KTM... seems the industry think that's what people will buy...
Comparisons are odious but ….
Nice light big bike. Im sorry I missed the fuel capacity. I don't need the extra lights set up but they have taken one of the recurring gripes on board.
Its not the bike for guys that think a 250 is heavy
The front from 3/4 side on looks like Sigorney Weavers worst nightmare
Which bike are you talking about, the BMW or the Yamaha ?
FFSYFF, you lot will whinge about anything. Like Richo said, it would make a good touring bike BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT IS!
Guess what? Yamaha makes the T7. There's your adventure bike. If all they offered was the S12 then fair enough, flame away but the fact is that Yamaha currently builds the best multi cylinder ADV bike on the market. I don't own one. Yet. I'm more than happy with my 950 for now. When time comes for a change, the T7 will be it. The 790R is an overpriced midgets bike. If I want to go touring on mixed surface roads, I might get this S12.
My advice is to buy the machine that is appropriate for the task and get out there and ride you pack of carnts.
as a 1250gsa owner amongst other things
Big Bikes need love too..
But I’m still exactly the same as I was, when I was 14..
Just happy to go for a ride, no matter what I’m on..
And if they ever do invent the unicorn, one bike, that makes everyone happy..
What am I gonna do with all that space in the garage..
geeze, it’d be like every bloke had to fornicate with exactly the same type of woman..
Where’s the fun in that..
and Advrider would turn into one post with “my bikes awesome” with a gazillion likes and that’d be it..
Shit, I’d even have to talk about stuff like my feelings,
when I pulled up at the pub for a beer with mates, rather than diss their bikes.
I don’t want to live in a world like that...
I acknowledge the "horses for courses", and this bike will suit some folks. But since it was posted I feel free to comment on Yamaha's (lack of) effort.
At 265 kg wet weight, I'd be more inclined to a positive view if the blurb said something along the lines of "sheds 30 kilos over previous model". You know, an actual improvement, not just adding or altering bling (which is what I can do myself).
If BMW can make the HP2 in 2005 weighing 175kg, why can't a Yamaha lose some weight 15 years later? Subtract the fuel and the Yammie is still around 75kg heavier than a 15 y.o. twin from the Chermans, and for what?
And why is it that riders of these behemoths are so keen to lug around all that useless extra pork and then defend it? If we're being honest here it is basically a road bike with plush suspension for the occasional good dirt roads. Weight is always your enemy on a bike.
I bought a S10 back in 2012... I found it awesome on dirt roads.. more stable at speed than my previous 650. The caveat was that I like to explore the road less travelled, be that a dirt road out in the bush or a small poor quality bitumen back road.
For that the S10 was perfect. Chose it over a KTM 990 after trying both out at Dalby Moto. Now on a 1250 GS Adventure after having my 1200 GS Adventure written off in a prang.
The Yamaha was super reliable and magic on those long trips like Brisbane to Melbourne and back via the Snowy Mountains.
It's not a trail bike, it's an all road tourer.
And for that, it's magic in my humble opinion.
No doubt you love a good whinge Gods. Have you not seen the T7? It'll kick a HP2's arse all day every day. The S12's direct competition is the big GS. I think it competes quite well.
I agree with some of that Gods, seems a bit of a Ho-Hum effort from Big Blue. I’m surprised they bothered, I thought there was a complete new S10 in the offing? Rode a 900 Tracer recently and I reckon that’s the biggest competitor to the Big Ten, and that’s where I thought Yam were going, a 900 triple with a bit more off-road focus than the Tracer. Don’t get me wrong, the old S10 was a great bike and this will be too as it appears to be the old S10, but with the 21st century equivalent of BNG, a BNL. At least it’s not KTM’s UBNL. There’ll always be a place for the big girls and we should rejoice in that Gods.
Always struggled with the pronunciation of Akropovic. Seems it’s pronounced A Crap ‘O Vic.
i agree with all your saying.
If the 2021 GSA was 175kg I’d be asking what trade I could get on my current one.
Didn’t think my post was defending it, I’m more a it is, what it is, and he with the most bikes wins..
Yep, lighter is better, and for a street bike that can do a little easy dirt, I chase toque numbers first, hence a GSA for my tourer.
Likewise depending where I’m going, I choose what keys I grab.
I’m ok with the GSA being the fat kid in the playground, if it wasn’t a GSA I’d have something else of its size.
A younger me toured on anything, then I either got more money or more old.
Comfy touring is a big plus for me now.
A big bike in the dirt, is a harder ride, no matter how many buttons my GSA has.
It’s not a go anywhere bike by a long ways. I’m ok with that.
I wrote in another post out of all the fancy things the GSA has, it’s the handbrake I like most.
I would have laughed at that 20 years ago.
Yep. I got old.
Nowadays I seem to add bikes, not change.
Guess I’m lucky, like most of my mates we all have a few bikes to choose from.
And being ok with BM, maybe a 20 year HP2 anniversary is only 3 years away.
A crap 'O vic...? I like it.