215 lb dual sport bike

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by kayaker43, Feb 18, 2018.

  1. kayaker43

    kayaker43 Adventurer

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    Who says you can't have a light dual sport bike?

    How about 254cc , 6 speed, plated with quality suspension and brakes!

    Start with a stroked, bored CRF230 and add KTM running gear with an Ohlins shock. It even looks OEM but required heavy frame mods. Its too bad Honda isn't selling these.

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  2. kayaker43

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    This one looks factory but is heavily modified to get down to 215lbs. It has KTM wheels, brakes, forks and an Ohlins shock. Its pretty much a different bike now. The same wonderful and simple motor but beefed up, and competition quality suspension.
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  3. AZ TOM

    AZ TOM Long timer Supporter

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    How much modification to fit Ohlins shock? I want it!!!
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  4. Bitingdog

    Bitingdog That's not my dog

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    This mad genius has converted a CRF 230F into PDS! And he's done it so well that it looks factory!!


    Additionally, he's grafted modern KTM WP usd forks onto the front, again with impeccable workmanship.

    The punched out motor and weight loss are the icing. This bike is awesome.

    The builder has mad skills. I am impressed. Hat's off to @kayaker43







    ***I don't even like Honda, but I'd ride this bike:-)
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  5. Thatdog

    Thatdog Hickster

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    35lbs is a lot of weight to shed. Replacing portly stock CRF components with higher grade would not suffice enough. Care to indulge the masses with your secrets. Maybe add some closeups of your craftsmanship
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  6. brownvv

    brownvv Been here awhile

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    Awesome! Any more pics and details of the frame mods?
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  7. Navin

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  8. Grreatdog

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    Either they already had a shock sitting on the shelf or somebody is really committed to this project. That shock alone could be worth 1/4 of the cost of a new CRF230F.

    I like it a lot and it was probably a blast to build. But that's a lot of time and money to throw at a play bike.
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  9. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    Make me wonder what the GPX will weigh? Same principal. New gen improved engine.

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  10. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    Did you build this or discover it somewhere?
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  11. sieg

    sieg Wearing out tires......2 at a time, day after day. Supporter

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    Exactly. I'm not seeing the point of throwing that kind of time and money into a play bike when you can walk into any KTM dealership in the US and ride out with a TRUE 50 state street legal, EPA legal bike that only weights 20lb. more, for a 250 or 350 and 25lb. for the 500. And that is before you remove the mirrors, turn signals, horn, side stand return, reflectors, chain guard, vapor canister and other EPA and "street legal equipment" that is missing from the Honda. And it has fuel injection. And it will probably run circles around that Honda powered bike. And you can get parts and repair all over the world.

    BUT............If building bikes is you fun spot, that is a nice build, looks like factory. (The KTM looks factory also BTW)
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  12. Navin

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    The shock is just candy. A set of AERs would actually drop the weight. Still not sure whats there, who built it or who weighed it.

    I see the point. Not everyone will but hey, its cool!
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  13. kayaker43

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    I'll give the full backstory this evening but keep in mind a few things. This is a good chunk lighter than your average two stroke 250 KTM and with the beefed up four stroke, that is tuned for big torque its very satisfying to ride.

    The most overlooked point is the overall size and seat height which is a huge benefit to many people and inspires confidence. It follows the trend that the Freeiride and X-trainer have recognized. It has better suspension than the freeride and X-trainer with nicer power and the same or less weight. Finally the stone age simplicity, maintainability and reliability matter a lot to some people.

    Look back at other cult bikes like the KDX and XR200 and CRF230. They were all reduced size with torquey engines, this is just the evolution of that concept.

    Honda could do something very similar using parts from their own inventory,.. CRF150R running gear with larger wheels.
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  14. Grreatdog

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    Honda would never in a million years give up their "Pro-Link" rear suspension. :lol3

    But there sure as hell is no reason the CRF230F should still be rolling on shit suspension and a drum rear brake.

    Even the XR650L got a disk brake at some point. :clap
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  15. Navin

    Navin Long timer

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    If I had a dollar for every time somebody said, "well Honda could"....

    Honda gives nary a single fack. Not sure why anyone is still a fan. That company died with its founder.

    GPX did. Pitster Pro did. Looking forward to the details on this one. :thumb
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    :lurk
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  17. chasejj

    chasejj Been here awhile

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    Its an interesting moto madness that makes us want these things. Chirons.
    Have seen the threads (on ADV) of these guys shoehorning these giant pig CB500X motors into CRF250Rally or CRF alloy MX chassis? All in the attempt to make some sort of (in their own mind) great Rally bike? It's kinda like going to the Zoo.
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  18. Grreatdog

    Grreatdog Long timer Supporter

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    AJP also took a shot at building this bike with their PR4 Extreme.

    I'm not wild about that five speed Zong engine. Otherwise I would be tempted.
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  19. Brtp4

    Brtp4 Powdercoat it. Supporter

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    Love complex builds, especially ones that take new paths. Lots of thought and planning involved. Compliments.

    BP
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  20. Cuttlefish

    Cuttlefish Riding to disappear.

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    They've made a bike that they want.
    Props to them.
    Show us what you've built.
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