3 Bad Hombres go south of the border to Copper Canyon, Mexico

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  1. LtCrashDan

    LtCrashDan Been here awhile

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    I snagged a screencap from a video of the the road that just drops off in Batopilas. Looks like Jason is staring at it:
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  2. Yinzer Moto

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    Day 6: 310km

    Batopilas to El Furte


    Deflating........

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    We were up early as usual and got the bikes loaded. It was fun riding them out of the hotel. Mensa (english speaking lady next door) lured me in for breakfast. I convinced the others. I am sure she has good intentions but it seemed like she was trying to fleece us for as money as possible. She said she does a lot of charity work with the money she takes in.

    We hit the road with full bellies and left town to the south, the same way we came in. Across the suspension bridge. The roads were nicer today. More sandy and clay and less rolling rocks. Not too long into the day, Dannys left rack loosened up to the point that the rear wheel ate the tool tube that was attached to it. The lower in elevation we went, the more sand that was on the roads. They were getting faster and faster. We stopped in a town for gas and a snack. the Gas was passed though a fence in a hose.

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    Danny ended up with his first (of many) flat tire as we passed though a town. We found a nice little spot to change it.

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    We finished out the day in El Fuerte. At a random hotel. They started with a pretty high price but Danny's negotiating skills got the price down to a reasonable $500. Then they would not let us park the bikes inside. As we were about to walk, the girl at the desk caved in.

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  4. Yinzer Moto

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    Day 6 video

    Things are getting smoother. The next few videos are a little slow but stay tuned, the last couple days are the best.

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  5. LtCrashDan

    LtCrashDan Been here awhile

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    Here is my video for days 3 & 4, I didn't have a lot of time to work on it, so its a bit choppy:


    For Day 6, I didn't grab many pictures, we covered a lot of ground in the second half of the day as the elevation change was very gradual.

    As Jason said, Mensa lured us in and told us stories about how she will house the needy and feed the Tarahumara Indians. She seemed to think I really needed to eat more, and poured a whole can of beans on my plate... We each donated $20 peso's to the coffee fund, but told her we had no where to put her book. She said lots of bike riders stay at Juanita's, and that she is happy about it, because they bring some money into the area. Later we would be told by several people that the mayor of Batopilas is pretty corrupt, and lets some unsavory characters hang out there. Also apparently most of the stolen vehicles around the border end up here, if you look closely, you will see many vehicles with punched out locks.

    Most of my pictures this day are from Batopilas before we left:
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    I also didn't grab much video this day as I suppose it was somewhat uneventful. on the way out of town, I crossed the bridge this time instead of fording the river again. I thought second gear would be more smooth, but should have stuck with first, but made it across.

    We would also find that gas from a barrel is a bit more expensive than the pemex stations, typically around $23 per litre vs the 18/19 at pemex.

    We breezed through to el fuerte, where we ended up ordering more food for dinner than we realized at La Parillada Asadero, and tried to find Mezcal again unsuccessfully. I believe we stayed at Hotel La Herradura that evening.


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    Day 6 track and chart:
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  6. Yinzer Moto

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    Day 7: 350km

    El Fuerte to a wild camp spot

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    We loaded up and went in search of breakfast. We found street vendor who was open and she had some tables. We sat down. She was making a pulled pork taco thing. It was delicious About 3/4 the way through my meal, I began to regret the decision to eat street food in Mexico. There was a bowl of lettuce and water on a table near us. I assume the vendor was washing the lettuce. A bird landed on the edge of the bowl and began to drink out of it. Then the bird spun around so its ass was hanging over the bowl. I did not see it poop but that was enough for me to regret my decision. None of us got sick but I think ill stick with food from a restaurant from now on.

    We followed a bit of asphalt out of the city but even when the roads turned to dirt, they stayed very fast. Danny got another flat. I had to ride a good ways back to find him and Ron. By the time I got back there, they were finishing up.

    The roads started climbing somewhere around the top. I noticed Dannys rack was broken. We fixed it up with a little duct tape. While we were finishing up, the sound of automatic gunfire lit up the woods near us. I think someone was concerned about us hanging out and wanted to send a message. We moved on quickly.

    Eventually we were across the river from Chinipas. We did not need anything from that town, so instead fo fording the river, we moved on. The roads were very narrow and steep, it was a really great time.

    We kept riding until the day got late, it was obvious we were going to have to camp out. We found a nice grassy field to setup camp, where our only neighbors were some horses and cows.

    These are the only pics I took today.

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    I also did not shoot much video and it is combined with the next days video.
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  7. drumdog

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    Great report and vids ! Thanks so much for the work posting this. I had no idea about this vast part of Mexico.
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    Great report so far.
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    I'm Planning for next spring from Arizona
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    Fantastic report! In for the rest of it. PS I love Pinguinos. Almost as much as a cold Gansito.
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    750 and 500 dollar hotel rooms and 35.00 tacos I couldn't afford that trip.
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  12. Yinzer Moto

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    Definitely a place only a rich man can go.

    Wait till the next day when we find a place that wants $4500 for a hotel room.
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    Those guys were harping on me for not getting the Penguino's, but I preferred the choco rolls with pineapple.

    I don't have much to add to day 7 myself. I had a concern about the street food from the getgo, as I had a couple co-workers get sick in Mexico City both off of street food. However it was an adventure after all, and the street vendors seemed to be more popular than the restaurants typically. The tacos were delicious, and they had coffee, although still instant.
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    We took the more northern route by the reservoir which quickly turned to dirt/gravel. It was pretty dusty, but the reservoir was neat to see. Just after there is also an art installation apparently some kind of fountain. We didn't stop, but i got a picture of the Aztec style statue near it.

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    We stopped in Alamos for gas, but didn't even stay for lunch, we got there so quickly and it was so busy, we blew right through.

    Closer to Chinipas the riding improved, we actually ascended back up to 6k feet from under 300, and then dropped back down to 1600 to Chinipas and then back up just over 6k afterwards. We contemplated the water crossing there, but we saw an SUV back out and decided against it. The day before my girlfriend had said she was sick of all the mountain pictures, so I made sure to grab her this shot on the way:
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    The temperature dropped quickly once the sun went down as it was very clear, and we were far enough off the road and away, we got a nice fire going (we made sure we had a nice big fire ring as it was super dry). We had no Cerveza's this evening, but all in all a good night camping out.

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    Update from Sandman regarding the case guard, they offered to refund the purchase of the guard and send me the proper size bolts to run the case saver without the sprocket guard. I wasn't looking for a refund, but was asking if they guarantee'd case protection, they don't, but I know that is a risk of riding in general and it is repairable. They are going to send me the right size bolts for the case saver to run without the sprocket guard. I would say overall I'm pretty happy with the response I've gotten from them. I can't say I would recommend anyone running the sprocket guard though, Ivan did say he's never seen that happen before. They seem to make a new chain guard now too that I really like the looks of, the stock makes removal of the chain to fix a flat a pain in the ass, just ask my personal flat repair guy @Yinzer Moto .
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    Do you have the tracks dor all your days?
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    If you get the E32 maps (http://cartografiagps.com/en/what-is-map-e32-gps.php) the tracks we followed are on thier map. Highlighted in purple. Be warned, some of thier highlited route is actually singletrack. Thier maps are not perfect but the contour lines allowed us the confidence to explore off of the map. I am not sure about sharing our tracks because if you try to follow our tracks with any other base map, it could end in disaster.
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    Day 8: 200Km

    Wild Camp spot to Uruachi

    Tubular Day

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    We had wild camped, doing that tends to leave us low on water. Especially after coffee in the morning. So once we hit the road, I was keeping my eyes pealed for a little store somewhere. It still feels so weird that we were out in the middle of nowhere but there are stores everywhere. Every little town with more than 5 buildings will have a store and possibly gasoline. After an hour or two, I rode into a small town. I stopped at a house that appeared to be a store but they were not. I got directions.

    I waited at the road for the others but they did not show up. I rode back a way and they were changing another flat on Dannys bike. We were dumbfounded why his rear kept going flat. I checked that tire many times and could not find anything. We were stuffing 21" tubes in and some flats appeared to be occurring where the tube was folded over on its self.

    Once back on the road, we rode into the town and bought some water at the store. Then rode down the road to the other store who had gasoline. I had to take on 2 extra liters of fuel because of all of the riding back to find the others with flat tires. :fpalm

    I think Danny got a pic of it but if I would have taken the pic a little higher, we were parked under a clothes line full of drying meat.

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    From here, we continued north to Basaseachi Falls. The roads were more main roads and improved in quality. Including a few stretches of asphalt. The park had a fee to enter. We pulled up to the gate and the guy wanted exactly $72 each despite the sign behind him saying $40. We tried to talk though the language barrier but could not figure out the discrepancy. In the end, it was a dollar fifty each extra and not really worth worrying about.

    We got about 100 meters before Danny had another flat. We were using up our supply of tubes. Ron offered up his last tube. I installed it. It would not inflate, it had a hole in it. So we tried to patch a tube. Assembled everything and it would not hold air either, possibly another hole elsewhere. This was starting to get old. I had a pair of spare 21" tubes, I put one of those in. It held. We cleaned up and rode to the waterfall.

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    It was a nice sight. I am not sure it was worth the ride all the way up there but we were not on a tight schedule so it only cost a little gas and time. The ride back down to Uruachi was easy.

    We stopped at an auto repair shop at the entrance of town to see if they could patch the tubes. They directed us into town and to look for a guy grilling meat on the street. He was pretty easy to find. He seemed like a really happy guy. I went into the store across the street to grab some snacks and when I came back out, Ron said Danny had gotten into a car with the guy and took off. I paid my respects for Danny and said it was nice knowing him.

    A short time later Danny showed back up with 4 tubes and a patch kit. The guy had a motorcycle shop in town and opened it up for Danny. When the shop is closed, the guy grills meat for free in the street outside of the store. I think he is related to the person who owns the store. You go into the store, buy meat and he will grill it.

    Continued.....
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    Day 8 continued....

    We set off to find a hotel. The guys father was trying to rent us a cabin outside of town for $1000 but that did not seem appealing. We kind of wanted to be in town. We found a place on the other side of the river. Danny will remember the name. The owner was also a really great guy. He had a nice secure place to store the bikes. We got room 14 which included a nice balcony view of the intersection below.

    The bikes tucked away and a majestic looking horse near them.

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    You might be wondering why the intersection below was important. For some reason, everyone in town from 6pm to 8pm would start driving around and they all would pull down to this T intersection and make 3 point turns. We say every vehicle many times. It was like rush hour in the city. I can't believe that we did not see any accidents. It was extremely entertaining, we sat up on the balcony, drinking tequila and beer.

    Speaking of beer, the unmarked door to the left of the ice machine is the beer store.

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    There was a nice restaurant across the street too, where we ate dinner and breakfast.
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    Day 7 and 8 video.

    Nothing too exciting, just good Mexico riding

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  20. dstutz

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    Hey Yinzer, With all this talk of tubes, IIRC you run Tubliss, did you for this trip? If so what pressures do you typically run for this kind of riding?
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