As usual, you make several vague "points" with each post, and when I murder the point that is addressable, you accuse me of missing or avoiding? I would be glad to discuss evolution, just not in this thread. I would also LOVE to discuss the merits and/or limitations, considerations of hammock camping in this thread, as long as it does not a discussion of the need for trees (which has been acknowledged). I do admit that your evolutionary tack may be your most interesting point, it is speculative at best. The discussion of the wisdom of our primate ancestors seems a bit foolish, since it appears that, many of them are still wildly successful masters of many jungles and quite a few cities? I would rather discuss the military use of hammocks, but now that you have abandoned that point in the harsh sunlight, maybe we should discuss some of the brilliant points made in this thread by other members?