790 Adventure coming Spring, 2019

Discussion in 'Parallel World (790/890)' started by Taurkon, May 7, 2018.

  1. AllSeasonRider

    AllSeasonRider Wandering, maybe a little lost...

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    Again, I don't agree with your assessment (unless you can provide references), but what point are you trying to make? I used the Ducati reference purely because it was a similar sized bike that went from a street to an ADV configuration, and highlighted the CHASSIS weight gain.
  2. appliance57

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    Well, we'll see. They're clever boys at KTM and they probably won't just be bolting parts on to an existing bike. They also own WP so they can tailor things more carefully. ..and you don't have to fill the tank, but nice to know you can if you have to.
  3. appliance57

    appliance57 Long timer

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    I was responding to another post.
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    more koolaid Been here awhile

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    Just though I drop this off here

  5. Irongig

    Irongig Been here awhile

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  6. ADV67

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    1090R is 207kg so that would be 182kg dry for the 790. Not bad at all if they can keep this marketing promise, we are below the weight of the 950SER here. And we are 40kg away from the 690.

    The 790 Duke is 169kg dry. But we have to add heavier suspension for the ADV, 21/18 wheels, reinforced tail section for luggage, large tanks (low on the side), front fairing etc.
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  7. Irongig

    Irongig Been here awhile

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    They don't specify if around 25kgs less wet or dry
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    scudrunner82 combustion addict

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    25kg... Still a heavy pig and not a dirt bike. It will be cool though and I will likely want one.
  9. AllSeasonRider

    AllSeasonRider Wandering, maybe a little lost...

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    They also don't specify which Adventure R model. Based on my math, this is putting the wet weight between 450-475 lbs.
  10. Delnari

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  11. Delnari

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    Nope, that puts it at 396 dry weight for what I know so far. The 425 lbs wet is still looking good.
  12. AllSeasonRider

    AllSeasonRider Wandering, maybe a little lost...

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    Show your work. :deal I agree with your dry weight, but I think you're underestimating the wet.

    1090 R is 450 dry, 505 wet. Reducing by 55 lbs (25kg), the 790 is 395 dry, 450 wet.
    1290 R is 25 lbs heavier than the 1090 R, wet and dry, which would put the 790 at 420 dry, 475 wet.
    (all weights are approximate)
  13. Kyle K

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    I have a 2017 Husqvarna 701e (wet weight 350 lbs, 74 hp single cylinder, pretty bare bones on stock accessories/tech ). I also have a 2017 KTM 1290R (wet weight 530 lbs, 160 hp V-twin, lots of tech and accessories).

    With that in mind, I imagine the the 790 will land more towards the high end of the middle at around 460 lbs wet weight. And that's okay. I think it'll be a great bike and fulfill that middleweight category for KTM. I predict discontinuation of the 1090 relatively rapidly though...:/

    It'll be more capable than the 1090 and 1290 off road, be easier to handle with reduced weight, low COG/ low slung fuel tanks, but also have the range, comfort, and tech to make long distance feasible and comfortable. Sounds downrightt sensible and like a winning combo to me. Even if it is heavier than we hope.

    With that in mind, I never really feel like I need everything the 1290R has to offer engine wise (but it sure is fun...). I would be happy with a, I daresay, more appropriate bike for my style of riding. The 1290R feels like it was based on the idea that they developed an amazing engine, and then decided to build an adventure chassis to carry it onto the dirt - they did an amazing job with it, but I'm just not sure who was clamoring for the 160 hp off-road oriented adventure bike. Do not interpret this as a bag on the 1290 at all, I LOVE mine, but it just doesn't seem quite as appropriate for the purpose as the 790 idea.
  14. Nowwhat

    Nowwhat I'll Go Second... Super Supporter

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    An 1190 weighs 538lbs .... real world weight
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    Yep. My 11190R was right in that neighborhood. If the 25kg figure is accurate that puts the 790 around 480lbs.

    I was hoping to see 450lb. Not going lose sleep over it. Will see what it actually weighs when it hits my dealers floor.
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    I don’t wanna even see 450. Picking that up is a no go. Hell, picking up my old 640 Adv wasn’t a whole lot of fun sometimes either and it weighed 400ish.
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    CanineCombatives the sound of inevitability

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    Kyle K that last paragraph is seeped in irony for me, after having the superduke I knew full well the potential this engine had, I just wanted it in the SAR chassis and suspenders and big hoops, the raw acceleration I gave up over the SD is almost negligible, the capability I gained over the SD is immeasurable.
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    I also have a 701E and a 1290R. Time will tell but I am not sure I would give up those 2 for a 790 unicorn unless it's really that good and versatile.
    It would be great but it's wishful thinking, the spectrum of use and fun with the 2 above bikes is just much larger.
    I rode the 790 Duke for a day and that engine with the shifter was really fun, it never lacked power. Eager to book a testride on the 790ADV when it comes out. I see the new 790ADV as the new modern 950SER: same weight, power and capability.
  19. JoeyZ

    JoeyZ "I'de Like To Take That Ride Again" Might as Well

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    I feel like the Bugs Bunny's nephew. "I want an easter egg" "I want an easter egg"

    Well"Is it here yet" "How bout now" I have a sneaking suspicion this will be the bike to have. 50-75lbs lighter adv bike will be welcomed. Lets face it most people are riding 1190-1290 at 100hp off road any how. These bikes are a bit much for the "average bear".
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    Yea but the beauty is the electronics make the 1190 awesome and easy to ride off road, then you can turn up the volume to 11 when you get back to pavement. Its really the best of both worlds. It will be interesting to see how this new bike fits in the lineup. All the magazines will give glowing reviews of course. I have no doubt it will be fantastic, knowing KTM. Personally I'm with ADV67. If I want next level dirt capability the 690/701 is the way to go.
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