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Discussion in 'Parallel World (790/890)' started by CalamariKid, Dec 14, 2019.
I can’t help but picture this guy:
I tried to find some info on heated seats and motorbikes, but my past google history took me to Hot Ass motorbikes I think. Embrace your mistakes I say.
3 intensity settings and no off switch.......perfect
Good luck 'de-cat'ing' that!
My take on him...
FWIW. Picked up the bike 12/31/19 so its all new to me. I bought the QS+ and the Cruise Control. I've never had CC on a bike before and it was pretty weird at first but I just finished a quick trip to Baja (B of LA) and used it a lot - Love it! WRT the QS, the dealer had the QS enabled when I picked the bike up, but I disabled it (as the manual screen shot above shows) so I could ride a bit before turning it back on. It's now on and might never be turned off again! What a load of fun and it is so smooth. It's not necessary for sure but it adds a lot to the riding experience. I haven't tried it off road yet and its sensitivity might require it being turned off if I find myself shifting unintentionally a lot. We'll see. My 2 cents.
Yep, it is growing on me. Really shines for me when quickly accelerating.
Get the QS+. Technology is great. Being able to rip through the gears - both up and down - while ripping down some fast gravel or across the desert is absolutely worth the price of admission. I love the quickshifters on my street and track bikes.
If you're just tootling about on your 790, then sure, don't get it.
Bought a 790 R yesterday.
It seems like quick shifting up and down was already enabled, but there is no quickshifter option in the menu.
My dealer says quick upshifting in on by default, you have to pay for the Quickshifter+ option to get down shifting.
That said, my bike quick shifts down better than it shifts up currently.
I'm curious if quick shifter is actually enabled by default or are we all just screwing up our bikes.
It's the best quickshifter I've ever used, I don't see how it would screw anything up. snick - snick - snick headed up, blip-snick, blip-snick, ... on the way down. It's better than my 1290SAR was, and it embarrasses my 1250GSA with how smooth it works.
I crossed my fingers it stayed enabled when the dealer did the 600mi service, it did. At some point I'm going to get the cruise enabled, with my fingers crossed then as well.
Just spoke with KTM Support. They put me on hold and asked around and said the following:
Unless you see the Quickshifter listed in the menu options, your bike doesn't have it.
Are they wrong? Or are we all messing up our clutches?
Depends. You can upshift without the clutch. It's taught in advanced track and race schools. Downshifting on the other hand, not so much. Again, you can downshift without the clutch, but you're at risk of damaging all of your shifting components.
When you downshift, does the engine auto-blip the throttle for you?
Mine sure seems to work but I do occasionally have this nagging fear that I'm going to hear the crunch of a gear tooth breaking off.
I don't see how it would hurt the clutch though.
Will check next time I'm out on it.
But it is certainly not like my Tiger 1200 or Street Triple that both have up/down quickshifters.
It seems to on mine. In fact a couple times it's blipped the throttle when I inadvertently put just enough pressure on the shift lever to trigger it but not enough to complete the shift. The bike actually surged without a change in throttle input from me.
It won't hurt the clutch packs, but the other components, shift dog, drum, shifter return spring, shift fork, etc... all can see increased wear or break.
Then you should have Q+. Part of its function is an auto-blip of the throttle on downshift as to rev-match.
It works just like my GSA, 1290SAR, and other bikes I've had ridden with QS, including the blip. It's not anything like doing a clutchless shift on bikes I've had without the QS.
The only way to know definitively is for someone who doesn't have QS purchased but thinks they have it to go ahead and buy it and see if it makes a difference. @Jarrett2, how about it?
@Jarrett2, I haven't ridden a Tiger 1200 or street triple with a quick shifter, how is the 790 different?
There is a more noticeable increase in RPMs on downshift.
Also a lot more consistent up and down.
More noticeable on the Triumphs?
Yes, sounds as if someone revved the engine.
Triumphs are more consistent in both directions as well.