790 R Cable Clutch?

Discussion in 'Parallel World (790/890)' started by KTM450SX, Jul 6, 2019.

  1. KTM450SX

    KTM450SX Been here awhile

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    WTF KTM?

    Im sure there is a million posts on this, but i'm considering a new adv bike. 790 looks sweet Cable clutch = no buy.
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  2. Newbusa

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    Not sure why? I’ve got the hydraulic clutch on my 1090R and the cable clutch on my 790 Duke, and I really can’t tell the difference .
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  3. KTM450SX

    KTM450SX Been here awhile

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    Every KTM i have ever owned is hydraulic. Why did they make this one cable? The thing costs a lot anyway so doubt they were trying to save a few bucks?

    I'll probably end up with the 1090R anyway. Or wait another year.

    I have a couple cable clutch bikes, cables suck, break don't feel as good.

    Is there any hydro conversions for the 790R?
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  4. ls6777

    ls6777 Been here awhile Supporter

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    I'm sure it was to save a few bucks to keep the the cost below the 1090. I prefer cable clutch too, but I don't think it would be a deal breaker if I was in the market.
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  5. Zuber

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    True, I pulled the Duke clutch and you can't tell the diff.

    Not So on the 790 Adv. It's stiff and has hysteresis. Typical cable clutch.
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  7. kokos79

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    I found the clutch pull on the 790 AdvR to be light and smooth.
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  8. windblown101

    windblown101 Long timer Supporter

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    Funny thing is when my dealer got their first 790 Duke in the clutch pull felt like crap. I was thinking the clutch on the Adventure might well be a deal breaker, but when the first 790 ADVR showed up the clutch felt fine and remains fine so far. I even adapted to slipping the clutch in the short engagement zone quickly as my Triumph has the same trait. Now the wide engagement zone on my 250 feels odd, lol.
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  9. przjohn

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    The 790 clutch pull is light and feels fine.
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  10. roookie1

    roookie1 Been here awhile

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    I know what i prefer when standing in the middle of the Gobi Desert. A broken cable is an easy fix, and you can just have a spare with you..

    And thats what Ktm was thinking, I think
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  11. chippertheripper

    chippertheripper motorcycle junkie Supporter

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    While I fully concur that the cable is the easier fix out in the field (especially if you have the foresight to tie your spare right alongside your primary cable), I doubt that was the reason they used it.
    They already were using it on the duke platform, so it was an easy crossover to the adv line. I think it was largely a cost saving measure specifically due to the design of the motor.
    Lucky for us, it’s a good clutch, made that much better with the camel arm, in exactly the same way the MME lever compliments the hydraulic clutch systems.
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  12. braaap!

    braaap! Long timer Supporter

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    @Camel ADV lever actuator plus Raximo shorty levers... equals a Clutch feel just like a Hydro except without all the PITA of a leak out in the field.

    Spare clutch cables on 12 week back order :)
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  14. Woody2627

    Woody2627 Grey Wobbler

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    In 50 years of riding I've never used a hydraulic clutch, and only ever broke 1 clutch cable back in 1975. What's the problem?
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  15. spartanman

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    The 790 clutch is smooth and easy with the stock lever and crank. It’s lighter than the hydro clutch on my 990. Some complain about a narrow engagement zone. I don’t find it that way. Nice job, KTM.
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  16. Salzig

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    Cable clutch, really?
    That's just unacceptable!!
    I'll go buy a new AfricaTwin.












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  17. kokos79

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    Cable clutch on new Japanese bikes (just like tubed wheels) is a carefullly calculated brilliant move towards a true adventure machine, while on european bikes it's just something that sucks.
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  18. Grreatdog

    Grreatdog Long timer Supporter

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    That Magura system extended my ownership of a 640 Enduro. They are really nice for bikes with a heavy clutch. Which doesn't sound necessary for this one.

    But it was an arthritic hand saver on my 640 and never gave me a second of trouble over several years. It wasn't even very expensive - maybe $200 IIRC.
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  19. bmw318tech

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    The hydro clutches is one reason I won't buy a KTM woods bike.
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  20. Some_Dude

    Some_Dude Been here awhile

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    When I pull on the clutch lever the clutch disengages.

    Maybe I’m missing something, but the system seems to function.
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