790 vs 990.

Discussion in 'Crazy-Awesome almost Dakar racers (950/990cc)' started by [Art], Jun 14, 2019.

  1. 1coolbanana

    1coolbanana Long timer

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    Dont agree, the 950 SE is an enduro.
    The 790 and the 9XXA are not.
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  2. chippertheripper

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    Who here remembers seeing the 1982 movie "The Dark Crystal" when they were a kid?...man that movies gave me nightmares after watching it. When pictures of the 790 started popping up on the internet a year or so ago, my first thought was the striking similarities between the "Skegsis" and the 790's.
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  4. JohnnyWaffles

    JohnnyWaffles Been here awhile

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    I can't justify getting a 790 since I was late to the game in 2013 and have sunk too much $$$ into my 990. I also don't see it as changing my capabilities much and I test rode one at the demo event.

    With that being said, I'm ecstatic there is a legit 990 replacement in the event mine gets totaled or whatever. I never viewed the 1190/1090 as legitimate.
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  5. Irongig

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    790r:
    More flickable
    Feels lighter (weight is comparable since once you drop stock cans on 990 and the center stand the difference is about 10 kgs
    Better fuel consumption
    Safer (electronic aids)

    990r:
    Better ground clearance
    Faster (tried on road, 1st gear pull comparison) Article posted in 1st page: maybe bad fuel connector on 990 disconnected? )
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    It’s really up to what you are looking for and your budget

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  6. chippertheripper

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    *faster in straight line road drag

    Faster is always relative.
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  7. motoman250f

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    No faster is faster. why argue 20HP and 200cc's difference? inline always spins up free but has poorer traction so as it finally gets traction its at max HP and really pulls. Its all perceived. This is why the 990 wins on the dirt track,, i bet it felt slower though besides heavier!
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  8. motoman250f

    motoman250f Been here awhile

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    Advronski needs to get an equal weight friend to drag these bikes in top gear from 4k rpm on pavement.. I think i know the answer.
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  9. Irongig

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    Ok, sorry:

    Faster, in a straight line road drag with perfectly flat asphalt.
    Oh i was forgetting the 2m/s wind blowing NE-SE.
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  10. chippertheripper

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    Ok, so what’s faster in the tight, nasty singletrack?
    The higher powered 990advr, or a 150xcw?
    Faster is not faster, it’s relative.
    Thanks for playing.
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  11. Pablo Mac

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    I won't be trading my 990 for a 790 any time soon. I might have been tempted if they weren't so scarce this first model year, and I WON'T be getting a KTM made in China. I'll wait til Husqvarna brings out an 801 Enduro twin cylinder model - now THAT would really get me salivating.
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    This makes no sense, I might be faster a dirt rider than you too but we are talking about the engine on the bike. If your bringing up all the variables like rider skill, traction, tires, class of bike, etc.. then why even say fast because variables are different for everyone?? Maybe we should just say accelerates faster?? Broader power? More power?
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    That’s exactly my point, I guess.
    Too many variables to say one bike is faster than the next, except under defined circumstances and and with variables removed.
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  14. motoman250f

    motoman250f Been here awhile

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    OK, with all variables removed the 990 is faster! Kidding, its fair to compare power though whatever language you want to use IMO. To discount power because you want to show zero disadvantages of the 790 sparks my attention..
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    Have you made this machine to S spec suspension, What ride Height? Great looking LC8
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    I had a 990, I know what it’s about.
    I have no bias towards the 790, really.
    I simply want the best tool for the job/money, and as we all know, that’s different for everyone.
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    Having owned a 1290 SAR and 990 Baja at the same time it was interesting to hop off one and on to the other. I see the 790R as a better 990 incorporating the niceties that I enjoyed on the 1290 SAR but with much less weight.

    My 990 was fully farkled with Superplush suspension, etc and I've done multiple rides including the WABDR. I hated selling it but was looking for a lighter bike with more amenities than the hooligan 990 that would also work on the tarmac when needed.

    Here's a quick list I came up with of what I think the 790 does better than the 990.

    - a fuel gauge!
    - cruise control option
    - tubeless tires
    - single fill fuel tank
    - lots more fuel range (~100 miles per tank more)
    - quickshifter option
    - ride modes
    - less engine/exhaust heat
    - easier oil changes
    - better headlight
    - no need for crash bars
    - easier air filter access
    - easy to read display
    - Switchable ABS
    - Cornering ABS
    - Traction control
    - Lighter weight
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    The air filter access is a huge advantage over the LC8
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    Here's a quick list I came up with of what I think the 790 does better than the 990.

    Heres a list of what already been addressed on my 990

    - a fuel gauge! ODO works for me
    - cruise control option: That would be awesome
    - tubeless tires: Done
    - single fill fuel tank: I have 3 :-)
    - lots more fuel range (~100 miles per tank more) Done, same here 400 km+
    - quickshifter option: Hmmmmm
    - ride modes: Mehhh
    - less engine/exhaust heat: Never knew it was an issue!
    - easier oil changes: Fixed with extension tube
    - better headlight: Done
    - no need for crash bars: Same
    - easier air filter access: Its not that hard
    - easy to read display: Done
    - Switchable ABS: Same
    - Cornering ABS: Mehhhh
    - Traction control: Nice
    - Lighter weight: Not really enough to make any difference
    + 250 mm suspension travel
    + Squadron Pro Hi beam
    etc etc etc

    So thats where Im at, most people who need these will have them already I guess
    Is it worth changing???
    Id love to but...

    Just saying for perspective.
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