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Discussion in 'Dakar champion (950/990)' started by alvincullumyork, Aug 29, 2016.
I'm probably going to buy most of that stuff.
need to make it first :)
What I do know is that my radiator guards will work with the stock, powercell and safari tanks.
If you need anything tested let me know.
Count on it - it all needs to be Lee-resistant
Just when you think you've made it idoit proof they make a better Lee....
So I've read this 10 times and think I understand.
63035010000 is the original and unavailable 950 SE radiator. Has the lower tabs for mounting the factory plastic radiator guard.
62535010000 is the 950 SM radiator. Direct bolt in to a SE but it's missing the lower tabs for mounting the SE radiator guard. Rocky Mountain list it as available for $406.47
63035110000 is the 950 SM-R radiator. Same as an SM radiator? Why the different part number? Rocky Mountain list it as available for $429.69
Has anyone ordered one? Are they actually available? I see used SM and SM-R radiators for around $200-250. But most are damaged in one way or the other. Sounds like my best bet is to buy a new SM radiator (if available) and weld on the lower tabs from my busted SE radiator
I would suspect that all three radiators are now out of stock. Call Rocky and have them check.
@alongat is working on getting an aftermarket radiator made, right?
There is a metal rad protector that first the SM and SMR radiator that doesn't need the tabs, I think it is the second best out there, way ahead of the stock SE protector though.
Sorry I used to have all this straight in my head but I can't remember anymore.
You're too quick Just called them. Part number doesn't show up in their computer so, "probably can't get it". I guess I could order one and see what happens.
Aftermarket option would be great but I'll believe it when I lay hands on one. I'm passed ready to get my SE back in the dirt
Thanks for the help!
Radguard makes the guard for the SM radiator. Mine just arrived so if you need pics before I get it on the bike let me know.
Took a bit of time to ship because they’re in AUS.
This is the one I have now and it is by far the best one yet.
that work with the stock radiator and Powercell tank I assume? as long as you don't run fat front tires?
Yes. The Fatty front tire issue seems to be hit and miss, see what I did there? The severity of impact varies bike to bike rider to rider. On most SEs I've seen that get ridden off road with real dirt bike knobbies all seem to have some contact with at least the radiator protector. It is almost always torn a little. With the metal protector the tire rubs but doesn't bend.
I made my own guard based on a guard that I made for my 300 XCW. Very sturdy. I was looking at the radiator off my 350 XCFW. There should be a way to modify the radiator off a late model 4 stroke to be used on the SE. Perhaps some real smart guy will figure out how to make that work.
I wonder if the 1190 Rad would fit it is curved as well ???
I have read this thread a few times now, But I’m still not clear on SM vs. SMR...is there even a difference?
Anyone think this radiator isn’t a direct fit? Looks like it even has SER guard mounts...I just don’t know if there is a difference between SM and SMR
Here’s what I believe I understand about KTM original radiators:
950 super enduro and 950SMR - identical radiators
950SM - radiator is slightly shorter in height compared to 950 super enduro. Different mounts for front grill
990SM / SMR / SMT - dimensionally the same as the 950 super enduro but lack the tabs for the front grill
I just put the 990SM rad to my SE. Dimensionally the same, needs the tabs and the upper hose connection is too long and bends too much inwards.
All the welds that need to be done, are done on parts that are not holding water, so not much stress on there. The top hose bung is quite simple to modify to fit with slightly modified pliers.
Also, the radiator is quite easy to move backwards about a half an inch to avoid the wheel hitting it.
The tools are pointing to where small tabs used to be on the fan cover, they need to be cut of. The right side fan needs to be turned 90 degrees clockwise so that the fan cage does not touch the front coil. A shorter lower waterline is needed with a 30 degree curve. This brings the front of the cooler about in-line with the cooler mount bolt hole in the sump.
As a down side, the right side fuel tap will touch the cooling hose.
After reading several posts about the original part being discontinued 63035010000, and the colaberation to try and reproduce a new suppy of reliable radiators for the Superenduro community, i find this listing on ebay. Its from Winner Racing in China
Business seller information
No.9 Workshop, North First Ring Road C00963
276400 Linyi, 山东省
Company registration number: 91371323575451742B
After the Covid 19 scandalous deception and lies and loss of life , i dont want to buy from China again.
Why cant we produce a quality copy 6303501000 in the USA or England ?
Why cant we manufacture a great reproduction of this part 63035010000 in the USA or England. Please any fabricators and specialists, explane why this curved design is beyond our experienence , skill , aptitude and talent to reproduce.