950 SE rear shock.

Discussion in 'Dakar champion (950/990)' started by Pitster, Aug 17, 2016.

  1. alongat

    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    Yes however I think here’s only so much that can do. I’m no suspension expert but I do know that any successfully designed suspension system relies on both the spring and the shock (plus of course, other factors). It’s like running a steering damper; you don’t know you really need one until you get one and then you say to yourself “how did I ever go so long without it?” - the Adv shock on the SE is a game changer.
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  2. GezwindeSpoed

    GezwindeSpoed Been here awhile

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    Looking forward to get my shock back from the WP guy but he is in Asia to support the riders doing some jumping on MX tracks. Gave him a SE and an ADV shock and the question to make one of them into 300mm travel.
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  3. Helibee

    Helibee Been here awhile Supporter

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    Doing that now with a Konflict revalve and massage to my stock SE shock. I have no complaints with the ride, but I don’t have a track or any place to really play and see what it’s limits are. For the fairly benign riding I did last year through the CO backcountry while loaded, I know Konflict’s work (both front and rear) saved my ass more than once when encountering surprises at speed over a blind hill/corners and ruts/washboard.

    I’m interested to see what differences there may be.
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  4. Chalk

    Chalk Been here awhile

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    I’m running a stock SE shock with a130 spring, I have just had the shock serviced by a WP specialist so it should be as good as it gets.
    Two up with camping gear it’s OK. One or two up the ride is way to harsh. I can wind comp and rebound all the way off and still to harsh. I don’t know what a revalue would do, but seeing as none of the UK suspension shops I have spoken to have any experience on this shock, I’m not going to be paying them to learn.
    The guy that serviced my shock told me that PDS is just a anti bottoming system and doesn’t do anything for most of the suspension stroke.
    I like the idea that Alon is suggesting, any actual ride reviews?
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  5. alongat

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    Andy, meet me in Salisbury weekend of July 14/15 and take my bike for a ride
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  6. Chalk

    Chalk Been here awhile

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    Cheers for the offer, if I don’t have to work I’ll be there.
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  7. motoman250f

    motoman250f Been here awhile

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    Alon, thanks for all your contributions! This is great info!
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  8. mountaincadre

    mountaincadre Long timer

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    Chalk try Gavin at G force suspension,(07787116492) did my 950A and the results where an eye opener, he's based in Northumbria but you can just send it by post, very knowledgeable chap.
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  9. alongat

    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    I don't know Gavin but what I have learned is that there are some very competent 950/990 adventure suspension tuners in the UK but they all give blank looks when discussing the SE. it knocking him at all, just wondering if he's got experience with the SE. Forks are next for me...I'm struggling to find someone who knows anything about how to tune the valving correctly...I'm also struggling to find the correct length fork springs in the spring rate I want...
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  10. mountaincadre

    mountaincadre Long timer

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    Got to be worth a try alon, he's an ex MX/Enduro racer who seems to really know these bikes inside and out suspension wise.
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  11. alongat

    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    Absolutely...I need help with my forks for sure. Too much voodoo science going on in them - thank you
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  12. mountaincadre

    mountaincadre Long timer

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    Nae worries Alon, I had issues with the suspension as I'm 11 stone.
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  13. alongat

    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    I was once 11 stone...was pretty young at the time mind you :) now I'm a nice plump 15.5
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    mountaincadre Long timer

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    I've always wanted to be fat:(
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    Do you enjoy fried mars bars? :lol3
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  16. alongat

    alongat Fesh Fesh

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    Looking at me, you'd think I live on them :)
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  17. mountaincadre

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    Lol cheeky bar steward.:)
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    mousitsas Long timer

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    Sorry for spamming the thread but as I am probably older than you @alongat let me tell you there is nothing worse as you grow older, than to carry extra weight. I am soon to be 50 and promised to myself when I arrive there to be as fit and slim as I was at 25. Lost 20 kgs already, 5 more to go, lots of cycling does the trick nicely. Has 2 wheels as a bonus too!
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  19. timolgra1

    timolgra1 Been here awhile

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    My story so far......

    Rear shock:
    revalved and Ohlins 130nm spring fitted...still not happy!
    990R adv shock fitted and better, 130nm spring fitted and better again!

    Forks:
    Overhauled and revalved. Still not happy.
    Works much better with preload wound right in.
    Why?
    Because the spring is supposed to be 457mm long @ 5.9nm mine were 450mm each.
    By adding a spacer (front wheel bearing from something!!!) and juggling the nylon spacers I was able to get the length near to 457mm.
    So now with just one turn of preload it's much much better. (1 turn = 1mm with a total of 10 turns available)

    Next step for me as the forks have been revalved is to fit 5.6nm spings.
    You can buy these in the US but can't find any in UK although I may be able to get them in 465mm length and by again juggling the nylon spacers will get my base length again.

    I advise you measure the length of your fork springs as the symptoms and my measures to correct them were all red herrings.
    The spring rate and length need to be correct first.
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  20. alongat

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    Lol - I'm not that bad. I'm 190cm tall and 102kg: I'd like to lose 7-8kg to feel good and I'm 49 years old
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