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A trip I would love to do, but not sure if it is possible in USA

Discussion in 'Americas' started by Cgo100DoElRey, Oct 15, 2007.

  1. Cgo100DoElRey

    Cgo100DoElRey Adventurer

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    A little backround. I was born in Chicago but raised in Mexico city since age 5. When I was under 5 my father used to take the family camping around the Chicago and I think Wisconsin area. Once we moved to Mexico him and I used to camp all the time. I don't remember exactly where we used to camp in Mexico, but I do remember that we would do lots of walking and hardly ever see other people for a day or two. I forget exactly how, but I do remember my dad skinning once a rabbit and a 2nd time a squirrel maybe.

    Since I moved to USA I've tried to get into the whole camping thing, but I am somewhat disapointed and confused.

    Disapointed because seems the only type of camping that I've been able to find is in campsites with quiet hours after dark, and too many restrictions. The ones that offer "primitive" sites require you bring in your own firewood.

    Confused because in some posts I've read that you do not need a permit to camp in a national forest, but then I read how people get fines and what not.

    Here is what I would llike to do:

    I would love to pack up my KLR with just some esentials and find a place to just ride and enjoy the mountains/woods/Forest.

    During this trip I would like to avoid "camp sites" and do true primitive camping where I would have to find my own water sources, and purify my own water. Would also like to be able to set up traps for small game like rabits and squirreles to eat (The idea would be to set up camp for a day or two at one spot, then keep on going).

    I would also like to be able to pick up dead/dried wood for camp fire. Seems it is "illegal" to pick up wood for that purpose in Florida.

    In essense I would like to do a trip where I would spend most of the time alone just with the people travelling with me, and ever so often pop out of the woods to gas up. I might be watching too much "survival man" but that is sorthat what I would like to do.

    Is there is such a place here in USA? If not, is there such a place sans the motorycle? Maybe a similar trip on a mountain bike, or even a good ol fashioned long hike?

    Thanks for any tips and advice.
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  2. Kinsman

    Kinsman Ribs....for her pleasure

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    Just study your maps for awhile and you will see plenty of opportunities. Get out and go. Thre's a lot of country to see and plenty of small furry rodents too.
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  3. Cgo100DoElRey

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    Thanks for the advice. I have seen some maps (google earth ROCKS!), but seems most roads I am able to find are "illegal". I live in North Miami, and have found some trails in the everglades. Turns out that it is illegal for me to be on these roads. I plan to keep on riding them till I get my first traspassing warning. I met a local guy in a forum that goes out with me. He says he is one of the few people in his circle of friends that has not gotten his first warning yet.
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  4. thunder63

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    Check into the Northern New Mexico and Southern Colorado. We camp and ride every summer with out interference or boredom.
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  5. Adios Pantalones

    Adios Pantalones Gordo tonto y contento.

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    Go west young man!

    The BLM seems to be the least intrusive of our land managers. Prowl ride reports for travels in the west. Gaspipes TAT ride might be a good start.
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  6. Cgo100DoElRey

    Cgo100DoElRey Adventurer

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    Gaspipes TAT? Do say more wise one :)

    Ok so I did a quick google search, TAT Gaspipes is that between New Mexico and Colorado?

    edit... Ok I just found out what the TAT is! Going to go read about it now
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  7. Cgo100DoElRey

    Cgo100DoElRey Adventurer

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    Ok, I am so jealous of many of you! Seems I live on the wrong part of USA for some good Adv Riding! To top it off I only get 15 days off work per YEAR. My employer claims "We give everyone 3 weeks vacation per year right off the bat", but they fail to mention the 3 weeks vacation includes sick time and personal time. Realistically I will be lucky if I ever manage to take 10 working days off in a row.

    I live in Miami, so just to get out of FL is over 400 miles! From what I've been reading most of the great trips are on the western side of USA and on the western side of Canada.

    Seems my options are becoming very very limited. Has anyone done any good rides on the east coast, some slab some trails/fire roads? What key words could I use to do searches?

    Thanks again :)
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  8. usgser

    usgser Long timer

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    Just grab your maps and head north till you get out of the swamps. Yah don't really want to camp in a swamp anyway. Once in the rest of SE USA stick with your maps and back roads and small towns. with a good attitude on your part the locals will guide you on where to camp etc.
    Granted it's great out west but the SE coast and inland SE USA is drop dead beautiful too. Different but still great. You'll have a blast. Lose the hunting idea though.
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  9. Cgo100DoElRey

    Cgo100DoElRey Adventurer

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    LOL "lose the hunting idea though", yes I want to save that for when I become finacially stable and can afford not to work for a month or two at a time.

    Ok, so very very dumb question. How can I tell which are the unpaved roads in a map?
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  10. Lone Rider

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    The closest thing to you will be the Ocala National Forest - 450k acres.

    With a few State Forests being the exception, you're looking for US National Forests and BLM land. Google is your friend and maps are moto porn.
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  11. cycletlh

    cycletlh Slower than yesterday!

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    Too many of us on Advrider over analyze everything. Is it the perfect trip, the perfect bike, the perfect gear, the perfect time, ......

    Met a college kid from New York in British Columbia while waiting for a ferry. He was on a 400cc bike with a worn out tire without the proper gear. Was heading to Alaska to get a summer job that he did not have lined up then needed to be back to New York by the end of August as he was a Resident Advisor in the Dorms.

    Point is, the adventure is the most important part. Use what resources you have available in the time you have available to start the adventure. Each year you just try to do a little more. Read the ride reports section for ideas. Not just rides, but ways to make them happen.:clap
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  12. Bad Hand

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    The Oconee NFS in central GA and the much larger Chattahoochee in the north both offer primitive camping. Both forests are dotted with wildlife management areas, with lots of opportunities for year round fishing as well as hunting in the fall and winter.
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  13. tx246

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    I know this sounds anti adventure but consider putting your bike in the back of the truck/trailer and do a long haul to the general area you are going to ride.

    Logic here is that you can cover lots of ground in less than ideal conditions with a fourwheeler ie rain, night. And probably the second best reason is if you do have a terminal failure on the bike or on you, you have a support vehicle in the area.

    I just got back from Arkansas which was only a state away from home. Once in Arkansas, we unloaded, ditched the truck in a WalMart parking lot, and rode 820 uninterupted miles 90%dirt roads, single,two track and 10%pavement to get gas and food. We rode hard all day, came into town and got gas and one big meal, headed back out for the afternoon and rode till dark. We pitched tents wherever we wanted as we were traveling through the Ozark and Ouichita National Forests. I spent 15-20dollars a day. Cheapest vacation in a long time. It was nice to know that we were only 4-5hours from the truck should something happen.

    We camped primitive. Just pulled off the road and pitched a tent.
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