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Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by rtwpaul, Apr 14, 2019.
Thank you that is fantastic!!
I certainly hope not as this is a great insight to the readers and what they like and don't like and will be a great reference for @rudy, @baldy, and anyone who moderates ride reports currently or in the future...and it was my question, in MY ride report, so something I wanted to know.
Apologies for not individually responding to each comment, it would be pages but I just want everyone that wrote and read all the last few pages comments were all read, a big thank you. I was out riding the big S10 yesterday shooting some images for a Euro mag, another who likes the narrative along with the photos...there are still a few left like that, fro reference in was Motorcycle-Diaries
If the last few pages have you upset that I derailed my own thread, sorry, but not sorry, it will be back on track today with photos and narrative as normal. There is a way that @2old2Bbold mentioned above that you can read a ride report, and only see the OP (original posters) comments, I use it a lot. Why?
Well, I like to read the story as told by the writer, by using the decrufter I will just see the OP's posts and any they reply to, maybe quoting the inmate with a comment or a question. So if the OP thinks it worth responding to then I re-click the decrufter and it opens up the thread again...I read and then re-click. It's a great tool. This is the link to it, and you won't get spam from it!
***********The like button - personally I use it in my own threads for me to know where I left off and let me know that I read ALL the comments and replied where and when I felt it added to the story. In other threads, I hit the like, simply if I like what I read or saw.
As a writer of a ride report, it's just nice to see a few then you actually know its real people making the 'view' numbers increase not the bots, right at this second there are 289 bots on this forum!!! I'm sure somehow they increase the views on threads somehow...but I don't want to know why.
If you see I like virtually all the comments, but for some reason, an odd one isn't liked...its cause I didn't like it, simple, if it happens more than a few times I hit the 'ignore button' on you...but that's just me
...but I would much prefer to be able to moderate this myself by deleting the comments I personally don't like.
***********The original question - Why are ride reports dying and, what can ADVrider do about it?
From what I've read in the last few pages - basically nothing!
It's simply organic, readers like a good story, great photos and most of all from an adventure big or small, local or international, something a little out of the ordinary, somewhat exciting, fun, dangerous, minimal food pics...writers with good style need to come here naturally whilst also having an adventure, not much to ask :lol3...oh and have a catchy title seems to help.
By keeping posting to ride reports I hope that in some small way I am keeping it going and maybe entice others to write with a little more depth
***********I'll finish by telling you how I write a report: I obviously take the photos during the ride, but when I sit down to write, I use it as a release, a way to decompress from the days or weeks ride, a way to relive what I saw, what happened and why I took that specific shot. I mostly, try to describe that in some form. I think rightly or wrongly if it was interesting enough to me to take that photo/s then if you are reading along then just maybe you might want to know the why's and wherefore of said shot.
A lot of images hit the cutting room floor because they have no story, some of those endo up on IG, ha!
Thank you all for taking part in this small but interesting Q & A, I feel I have got to know a few of you a little more through this, and some of you I already know simply because of being on this forum and having the chance to meet you face to face and share a beer or two, or 400 @philthyphil
Let the ride continue...
back down to lower elevation, I knew I needed two things, well three actually, gas, pizza, beer. The first was easy to find in Torrey, UT. Standing in the gas station there was a sign I saw that said pizza, stars are aligning, I rode there, all of a few hundred yards and whaddya know they had beer.
Just so you know this ADV riding stuff is dangerous, sitting eating pizza i nearly lost a leg...
...because of this traumatic experience, I got a room...
In the morning I jump back on the GWT heading north, and it's tough, and in minutes I have doubts if I can continue. The track is insane and steep and sandy and rocky and quite honestly not fun...but I continue and it gets worse until I come to climb that I'm not sure if I could get up on a 250 2smoker...I turn around and quit! I head back to the nicely graded road to look at the sign where I caught the start of the trail.
Rookie mistake, too many beers the night before!!!
I was on the hiking and horse trail, which might explain why there were no tire tracks. I ride up and down the trail and find the motorized trail, cool...off we go!
It was great, not a single person around I had the whole thing to myself, and partway up to the surprise of some readers all of Utah isn't red rock, there is a lot more to this state, some of the rocks are white!
A half-hour later the long-distance views are gone, I'm up, way up in altitude in the aspens and the track is getting a smidge steep and rocky. (photo does no justice of the steepness)
It's all good, a little boulder slalom, the occasional throttle blip to loft the front end over a boulder, but not always with good results
This photo above is the story of the remainder of the day, it was steep, doesn't look it I know. When I stood up, me, I'm talking about I was sliding downwards trying to stand up...that kind of steep.
In front of the bike (you can't see it) was a ledge, maybe 8-10 inches tall and square, behind the bike my run-up was all you can see, then there was a bend. In hindsight I should have turned around and taken a longer run-up...but I didn't, did I.
I tried to static start while lofting the front wheel over this little ledge, but with lack of momentum, I couldn't get the forward motion and loft I wanted and bounced off the little ledge, more than a few times.
Ok, next idea (another bad one) stand to the left of the bike and walk it up using the throttle and clutch, it was so steep I was just sping the tire and making a hole.
I took a breather and had this thought that what if this is the easy part and just round the corner is gets really crazy, so I went for a hike, about half a mile and it all seemed doable so I returned to the bike with renewed energy and got over it.
I rode the half-mile I'd walked and it was great, tough in spots, but doable, but for sure the elevation was taking its toll, then not even 100 yards further around a blind corner...this...I think a 12-second video tells how I was at this exact point more than any photo or words could
to be continued...when it gets worse...
Glad you survived lunch, they don't call em "prey"ing mantis for nothing... (pun intended) I should go back and look at the beginning of this RR, but I'm lazy, so I'll just ask. Do you wear legit knee-braces or just knee guards?
Re: ride reports, It's your pictures and tracks that pulled me in, and you write well; I like the short story style of writing that you use to include local info and your experiences. I don't always have the focus to read long posts-even good ones.
I really like the track illustrations because I'd love to do a 500 light-adv someday. (It'll probably happen after I get my first speeding ticket on my 1290 SAS; I'm a little surprised that hasn't happened yet) Living in Denver, a lot of the tracks in this RR are accessible to me on 7-10 day trips. I can do those until the kids are out of the house, and then more...
Thanks for the great content!
Just realized I never really said what keeps me engaged in an RR, but the above bit reading from "It's simply organic..." covers it well enough.
In truth tho it must be noted that some people just cannot write well. It takes a lot more than being able to complete a thought, actual writing skills (like those everyone SHOULD have learned back in 4th grade English here in the U.S.) count in a huge way. From complete sentences to punctuation, to making paragraphs, and on & on. Finally, what REALLY matters is sticking with what you started and you, Paul, have been so great at this. It's really sucky to get pulled into an RR by some decent photos and good writing style, only to have the author fizzle out and never finish. OK not everyone can pull it off in real time, on the fly like Paul does but COME ON.
OK sorry, enough of that malarky. Notice how that praying mantis changed its color to match your shorts? Sneaky devils, they are. *whew* Dodged THAT bullet dintcha? Then again, it's nice to have company for lunch!
Sounds like the cowboy was right... you need a horse :)
400 beers! Obviously you didn't stay here long enough but I did my best to fill you up!
More of the same as elevation increased, even more, I thought I was at the top, you know that feeling you think you're there and surely it must start to go down now, nope.
Finding a flat area to stop for a breather that the side stand would work on was near impossible...trees work
The trail at this point had no tire tracks on it at all and I wondered if somehow I was back on the hiking trail.
Then all of a sudden the track opened up and I was at the top, I was beat, but thought about it like this - No one regrets reaching the top, but all the experiences usually happen on the way there!
I put the camera on a log, took a photo, and literally if the bike wasn't there I probably would have collapsed
From here it was downhill and I reached a small town and stopped to grab a bite to eat, then leaving town spotted this!
It made me think of all the times I've been asked if I'd met anyone famous, I guess it's more specifically directed to bike travel, but as I'm standing there taking the photo my mind wanders to famous people I've met over the years. I don't go looking for them, I just seem to bump into them or have a chance meeting. People like Princess Diana, Ringo Starr, Vanna White, the Chicago Bulls, the Sultan of Brunai are a few of the more commonly known ones, for a while I worked with Steve O...but does this top the list, meeting Mater?
I jump on the bike recalling some of the crazy shit Steve O did, grab a handful of throttle as I leave the town limits, and the clutch slips, you know that feeling, revs increase but the bike speed stays the same...FŪÇK!!!
It's a Saturday afternoon and I'm back on the dirt with no phone service, an hour or so later I get a connection and make a call, it's 3.55 pm. I just happen to have Rocky Mountain ATV/MC Social Media specialists number on my phone, I give him a call because I know their store closes in 5 minutes and I'm about 2 hours south, and they are closed on Sundays...any chance he can get me a clutch pack before they close??? PLEASE???
This is the reply I get, "Sure, I'm not working today, I see they have two in stock, I'llll call and hold it for you, give me a call when you are 15 minutes away and I'll go open the warehouse up and meet you there."
How awesome is that!!!
Rocky Mountain saves the day, and I end up doing a clutch swap in their warehouse surrounded by their 'Five Miles of Hell Bikes' If you haven't go check it out the videos on YT it's funny shit, the gave each other a $500 limit to get a bike btw, so its carnage.
Were the clutch plates really that bad, I hear you say?
So RMATVMC thanks for not social distancing too much, and refusing in-person collection, and helping me out of a bind.
You got a good cardio workout on that stretch. Glad RMATV/MC went above and beyond and got you what you needed to get back on the road/trail. ‘Mater made me smile.
my cardio is nowhere near where it used to be, especially at over 10,000 feet...RM are awesome
While I will probably never have a situation like yours, service like that just helped them move to the top of my parts needs list. Way to go RMATV!
for a massive major corp, you'd expect a "we are open Monday morning, see you then." ...but these guys are riders they understand what being stranded feels like
I have been following you Paul for years and this is the first thread where you have posted pictures of your bike napping that I remember. It must have been bad for a guy that basically rides all the time to go down it must have been bad. it's nice to know people when you have a problem. Good for RMMC.
Crikey, those clutch plates! Did you suspect they might be on their way out before you started the ride?
I have used RMATV for a few years with zero issues. Orders arrive 1-2 days after order is placed, never a problem returning an item. Good phone help with questions, etc. I only recall 1 back order on OEM parts and it showed up 4 days late. Also they are major MX sponsors. Good outfit!
no clutch issues at all, it was all down to this section and my bad clutch control...lesson learned, you'd think I'd know better after decades of riding
Just caught up on your last few updates, outstanding! Can't believe you met Mater - my boys loved that movie, me too to be honest That section of the GWT looks nasty as hell, big rock steps with embedded baby heads on a fully loaded bike is tough work. I'd have a tough time getting to the top on my 2-smoker trail bike, have a feeling the little mule (WR250) would seriously struggle at the altitude.
I've been using RM for years now, great service, prices, and delivery. Really neat that they were able to help you with a clutch pack like that - getting sidelined with fried plates for a few days would have stunk otherwise (unless you were close to more beer and pizza...lol).
I want to go back and respond to the question you posed a couple days ago - still cool to do that here? No worries if not, I know the report has moved on...and I'm thankful it has.
Knobby side down @rtwpaul, look forward to what comes next
You gotta love good shops. I was headed through New Brunswick to PEI and needed a new gaskets for an oil change. I called Toys for Big Boys in NB and seeing as they would be closed when I got there they'd leave them at the gas station across the street. It was cool, the gas folks said it was a regular thing and checked my ID to make sure I was the right person collecting my package. Nice to be taken care of on the road.
Can you expand on "bad clutch control"? When riding similar conditions I almost always slip the clutch. It smooths out the ride, gets you in a higher gear and generally helps tame the terrain. Guys like Jarvis do it all day long in extreme enduros, not that I'm comparing myself in any way, shape or form. Of course they have mechanics who fix their bikes daily, but still.