Adventurizing a KTM 500exc for RTW Riding

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by rtwpaul, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. Sparrowhawk

    Sparrowhawk Long timer

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    That's true. Tests like acid or base number, viscosity changes, water, and silicon can tell a person how "old" the oil is getting. Silicon and aluminum are the most common elements in the earth's crust so aluminum can indicate dirt in the oil or metal wear. Wear metals like copper, iron, etc. can warn of a mechanical problem that may, or may not be related to lubrication. The tricky part for oil analysis while travelling is that it might be difficult to find the same oil each time it's changed. A person needs to know how the used oil compares to new oil in order to interpret the results.
  2. ovlaicu

    ovlaicu Noob

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    I was about to ask you what tires you plan on using.
  3. Caprug

    Caprug Not noob

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    They didn't take the bait!
  4. Fast1

    Fast1 Twisted Throttle

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    sure we did.. how many miles would you guesstimate with those tires for the moto with all the extra luggage weight?
  5. Moto Vaquero

    Moto Vaquero Trail less traveled

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    Yep, we did...I would put fatty's on the front to reduce the chance of pinch flats.:lurk
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  6. Sparrowhawk

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    There's not much solid data available but I have come to understand that extra weight can add mileage to a motorcycle tire's life expectancy, so long as tire pressure is adjusted appropriately to avoid excess heat. At first it seems counterintuitive but the theory goes like this. Tires wear because they slip ever so slightly when either power or braking is applied. That's why a heavy hand on the throttle or brakes wears tires out faster even though you're not actually spinning or skidding the tire. More weight on a tire increases friction, so for the same driving or braking force there is less slippage and, therefore, less tire wear. That's one theory anyway.
  7. ScotsFire

    ScotsFire And then a drifter rode into town...

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    Hold on. We’re not done beating oil changes into the ground yet.
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  8. benjamin1031

    benjamin1031 Been here awhile

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    @rtwpaul
    Not only are your build threads awesome for shameless “Moto porn” they also provide much entertainment. Now you know why I was so antsy for you to get this started!! Haha
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  9. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    All the tires shown above are 'Q' rated, they are all MotoZ. There's a rear Tractionator ADV rear, Tractionator Rallz front, and front and rear desert h/t.

    I have run the Tractionator ADV riding in Colombia, Ecuador and Peru. Mounted in Medellin and rode 70% plus dirt to Lima and got 11,000km on them, the fronts were just about done but the rear still had around 40-50% tread left.
  10. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    https://advrider.com/f/threads/adve...-for-rtw-riding.1369978/page-10#post-37180514
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  11. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    The Tractionator ADV according to MotoZ has an estimatrd lifespan of around 10,000km + I personally have got a lot more, last ones I swapped out had 11,200km and only swpaped due to new tires waiting and not wanting to carry. At that distance the fronts were basically done, that was riding 70%+ dirt thru Colombia, Ecuador and Peru on a DR650, a lot less HP but more weight...to give you a point of reference.

    The others are Desert H/T's I have never used them, they wanted us to do a comparison, grip vs longevity, they only expect me to get 2500miles/ 4000km out of them...we'll see. Generally I'm very easy on tires
  12. HickOnACrick

    HickOnACrick Groovinator

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    Not trying to Hijack the thread, but I have recently made a number of changes to my 500 similar to what Paul has been doing. I changed from the GL Coyote to the R40, added Tubliss, re-geared as I found the stock 500XCW first gear to be too low. Monday I tried setting up the R80 I have on the 500. Without a rack like Paul has, I would not recommend the R80 on a dirt bike. The base of the R80 sticks too far out over the seat, and sits far enough back that there is a risk of the exhaust burning the R80 - even with muffler guards in place.

    After fiddling with the R80 for a while, trying to get it to fit on the bike, I just set it aside and used the R40. If one decides to use the R80 on a dirt bike, I would love to see how you make it work without a rack system. (Edit - figured it out, see post 1043).

    So I took it out for a shake down ride for a couple days. I rode this trail:

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    Fast forward to the 3-min mark to see the more difficult sections.

    I aired the Tubliss down to 8 psi. Did I notice the weight of the luggage? Absolutely, but mostly on the switchbacks when I needed get the bike low to decrease the turning radius. The lower psi made the rock gardens much more manageable. I rode the trail with some guys on 250 dirt bikes and generally was able to keep up with them.

    I continued riding forest roads and 4x4 trails for a couple more days. A couple thoughts: I added 4oz Slime to the front and rear when mounting the Tubliss. I did not notice any significant "bounce" when riding slab up to 65 mph. The R40 does not hold as much gear as the GL Coyote, but the weight is less noticeable on the trail. I also ran a MM Nomad tank bag and was VERY impressed. One of the things I hate about tank bags is that they impede my ability to get on the pegs when making difficult climbs. The Nomad sits low enough that I can straddle it and still steer with my toes.

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    Lastly, while cinching down one of the dry bags, the stitching on the left leg of the Mosko came undone. I have placed a couple calls to MM and sent them an email, but haven't heard back from them yet...maybe Paul can use his 'batphone' line to encourage MM to call me back.
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  13. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    pm'd you
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  14. cabnoir

    cabnoir Adventurer Supporter

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    Awesome tread, I just caught up. Lots of great discussions and gear porn! Thank you @rtwpaul I can’t wait to follow this trip!

    A note on tubliss that I haven’t noticed mentioned ( I know, not more tubliss...). For inflating the high pressure bladder I use a no loss air chuck. I have one with a gauge for charging shocks and in my tool box and use it to check the pressure before rides. But the main fitting can be found for about $40, search the inter webs. I’m going to add one to the bike tool roll. I feel that this bladder is critical, so why not be as accurate as possible with the pressure.

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  15. rtwpaul

    rtwpaul out riding...

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    Not really a part for the build but you just might want to read this for a great discount.

    @miks just sent me an email and he's reading this thread and also owns a company called HumanGear, which I just happen to have some of their gear (Duo blue spoon and fork) and all their gear has a lifetime warranty

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    He has offered a 20% discount on every product they make, discount code RTWPAUL. Good until the end of April 2019.
  16. jonz

    jonz Miles are my mantra Supporter

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    I've had MM stitches fail on both the R40 and the Nomad. MM replaced the R40 quickly only asking for a photo of the failure. I had a luggage shop re-stitch the Nomad as it was quicker than sending it back. So I like the MM gear (I also have an R80 for the 1290) but I worry about the stitching. I might try to put together a small stitch repair kit to carry along. I also think the rack might help support the bags so that stitches are less likely to fail.
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  17. miks

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    Hi all. Miks here. My company humangear makes some outdoor and travel gear. Paul is a man of great taste and had already purchased one of our Duos for his trip before I commented a few days ago. Our stuff isn't ADV-specific, but things like our GoBites utensils and containers can be useful for moto trips. As Paul mentioned, all our stuff comes with a lifetime warranty (yes, for real). The Duo is the utensil I pack on trips but others may like the minimalist Uno (bulletproof plastic or Ti).

    We're working on getting the discount code live (it's a weekend, so our web person is out). Hopefully will be live by end of day, or Monday AM latest.
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  18. miks

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    “RTWPAUL” 20% discount on humangear webstore is now live. Happy to answer any questions on our gear (although will be in air shortly so will respond once landed).
  19. cabnoir

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    Awesome! I love the Unos I already have. Might need to add the Quattro to get some chopsticks...

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  20. MotoChron

    MotoChron Got Dirt?!

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    How do you get the Nomad so far up? Doesn't it interfere with the vent for the gas tank? Enquiring mind wants to know?! :D