Adventurizing a KTM 500exc for RTW Riding

Discussion in 'Thumpers' started by rtwpaul, Mar 7, 2019.

  1. Magile

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    Planning to put a no-mar tire stand in the new shed, should add the truing/balancing stand as well
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    You can save some $ with a DIY balancing stand. Four skateboard, rollerblade, or whatever bearings, a couple pieces of sheet metal, a few nuts, washers, and bolts, jack stands, and clamps. Just use the bike's axle, making sure it's level.
    Tire balancing stand detail 2.JPG Tire balancing stand detail.JPG Tire balancing stand.JPG Tire balancing stand level.JPG
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    That’s a brilliant DIY stand
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    HA. I was wondering, as I read thru all this chatter about tire balancing, if anyone would mention Dyna Beads ???

    :lol3
    :hide

    BTW, Paul- the bike looks fantastic, brother!
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    Wheel balancer
    There is a compact version without the full stand available too. Set up on anything.
    Seen sitting here, it spans my tool chest.


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    Vise grips will lock it onnatopa jack stands
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    So I take it you hate them? With a passion.
    It's understandable.

    With tubes I find they do work...and nothing is flying off or jambed inside the wheel.

    These even more
    https://www.counteractbalancing.com/products/counteract-for-motorcycles/
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    ricochetrider MotoMojo

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    NO no no! I don't hate them, at all- but have never used them myself. I've seen threads on Dyna Beads go off the rails tho- a lot like "oil" or "tire" threads on motorcycle sites are known to do. I personally started a Dyna Beads thread on the BMWMOA forum some years ago that went absolutely wild. Pages and pages upon pages and more pages of both love and hate.
    Engineers chiming in with "expurt" opinions and the whole bit. :lol3
    It was awesome.

    SO, if you hadn't chirped up with your own "Dyna Beads" comment, I was totally going to throw one in. Just to, um you know, stir the pot. :thumb
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    I always find it interesting that people who have never used something feel the need to tell others why it can't work. :ace
    I've seen so many of those posts on various threads and forums.
    Tools, oil, filters, and so many more.
    I get a laugh reading them but only look for information in the posts by people who have actually used the item. :imaposer
    I've never tried Dyna Beads, Counteract, or Slime but when looking for something to put in my tubes to possibly slow down a leak if I got one, at least to let me get safely off the road, my research led me to Ride-On as having the most happy customers.

    I am very impressed with it but I don't know if it has ever needed to plug a hole in a tube (yet (4 years!)) but I have it in all my bike tires just in case.
    I balance my own wheels so when I put it in my DR650 wheels 2 years ago, I left the old weights on the spokes, installed new tubes and tires, put in the Ride-On and took the bike for a ride to see how it might work with the balancing.
    65 mph, all smooth.
    I removed the weights on the wheels and went on the same ride, all smooth.

    Nope, I don't know how it does it, but it balances the wheels.

    My Drifter 1500 has heavy steel spoke wheels with heavy 160/80/16 tires and Ride-on balanced the wheels perfectly so that they were smooth as silk at 85mph.

    I didn't use it to balance the wheels, I used it as a possible help if I get a puncture...
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    Back in 2014 was first time I experienced Tubliss. I was immediately enamored.

    I ride off road knobbies dualsport about 70/30 dirt/street. Singletrack enduro and wfo top end and no mercy for the knobbies.

    Tubliss,
    W/Nomar (generics) weights,
    4oz. Of Stans Tire sealant.
    Ultra low pressures and unlimited traction.
    These 110psi pressure indicators have served me well too.
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    After dozens of tires,
    I have never had an issue.
    havent used tubes since.

    - - WINNING - -
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    I have same EXPERIENCE with Tubliss. Like fresh, clean gas... it just reduces the chance of WALKING home.
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    For the balance crowd I've owned this for years and have a few different comes for all my machines. Incredibly smooth bearings and accurate results.

    http://www.marcparnes.com/
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    I wonder how that works for RTW type of riding vs more local off-road riding?

    Seems most RTW riders are using tubeless rims and tires or using tubes for redundancy and backup when things go wrong...such as a major tire/tube puncture.

    Pull the tire and duct tape it or vulcanize it and put a new tube in for now.

    When you're in bum-fuck Honduras you do what you have to do.

    RTW can also demand you spend chunks of time on paved roads.

    Paul had a Guinness record goal
    to ride a huge long distance all on dirt, to later find out connection chunks are often paved & straight.

    This is a RTW build up thread after all not the ultimate EXC dirt bike build thread.
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  18. rtwpaul

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    Not exactly correct, Guinness refused my entry becasue they suggested it was too specialized, and countered with why don't you try "Longest journey by motorcycle in a single country"... :lol3
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    I'm in the camp of less is best...

    The fewer parts, especially very unique parts, the better for adventures outside of the US.

    I prefer old school tubes and tires even in Baja for my street legal enduro motos. You can and I have put a patch made of US dollar bills for a severe sidewall cut. Had to super glue a bunch together to keep the tube inside the tire, but the patch allowed me to slowly ride 70 miles to civilization and buy a new tire. Only seems to work with USD due to the tight weave and high linen count of the bills. A trick I learned from a very old school rider in the 70s.

    I will likely go to Tubliss on my MX ride but that's bike isn't even in the adventure riding game; just trailered to single track.
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    I'd go with mousse over tubliss for pure offroad bike. That's what the pro's use and even my amateur ass, lol. Just keep it lubed and it'll last a long time. I had mine for 2 years (about 140hrs worth of single track and motocross) before they died, and they only died because I got lazy and stopped lubing them every few rides.
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