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Discussion in 'Land of the Rising Sun: ADV Bikes from Japan' started by NoVa Rider, May 26, 2016.
Went with the BDCW approach.
Anymore and I really, really am throwing money away.
Thanks for choosing one of our skid plates and lower bars! It looks like you're properly ready for a little adventure, rocks, and dirt now.
-Black Dog Cycle Works
If you were in doubt that the AT is Japanese -- try adjusting the rear preload .... I've had to ride by the local hospitals neonatal department to ask whether they had new-born dwarfs that could give me a hand
I've got the SW Motech skid plate, and I used to run the SW Motech crashbars, but like you, I sustained case damage on rock/gravel nap. I removed the SWM crashbars and put on the full Altrider crash bar set, and modified the SW Motech skid plate to fit (angle grinder).
After several drops, the Altrider bars are doing their job very well. No further damage, and the bars haven't deformed thus far.
The SW Motech bars are just fine for dropping your bike on tarmac, but as soon as there's uneven ground and protruding rocks, the engine is vulnerable.
What is your sag?
I'm scratching my head here setting the read preload. Following this advice: advpulse
Even with max preload (full clockwise), I'm getting ~8cm (~3.1 in) loaded sag when I sit on the bike -- i.e the difference from extended sag on the center stand to loaded sag (measured from the read axle nut to a point on my pannier frame).
I.e I cannot get the recommended sag of 1/3 the total spring travel of 6.6cm (~2.6in).
The weight of the bike alone (balanced upright, off the side stand) it sags about 5cm (~2in).
I'm not an Italian sized boy, but I'm not that chubby (105kg = ~230lb) ... am I?
Does that sound right to you? Does your AT sag 2 inches from its own weight alone, with max preload?
Found the same on my bike.Springs are pretty much a joke on this bike.put a a 10.4 or 10.6 kg on back and .72 or .82 in fork.Springs in fork also progressive but they are way to soft in beginning of travel.
Exact same thing.
Sounds right. I'm 165lb geared up and need ~25 of the 32 clicks to get proper sag.
You need a stiffer spring on the shock - but be careful because the stock shock has pretty weak rebound control.
I had a local shop re-value my shock and it made a good improvement.
Had 0.75 fork springs installed and the forks re-valved too. Another good improvement.
Might be worth the effort - I'll look around for shop to do it, but I'm not hopeful I'll find one here in little Denmark...
(btw - I know it's 'rear' and not 'read' in my original post)
How'd you do that? There's a remote knob for adjusting the preload.
The stock shock is undersprung for your weight. Maybe try a Hyperpro spring if you don't want to replace the stock unit.
My hand hardly fits in the small triangle in the frame to access the remote knob. -- I ended up removing the knob and using a ratchet directly on the metal
(not my actual hand in the picture ... just me being a drama queen)
I love the tall narrowing effect this does visually.
Not really a farkle, but added braces to the luggage rack. Holan, I think, makes some, but only fits their racks.
Made from 3/4" tubing, flattened the ends, drilled holes, painted black. Lower ends bolt to pannier bracket, and upper ends bolt to aluminum plate on luggage rack.
Didn't have to bend them, straight pipe cleared the turn signals.
Has anyone tried to fit a Touratech rallyform bash plate and Alt rider lower crash bars?
Any problem putting that together?
... all depends on how tall you are.
I have been looking for the picture for hours, but somewhere on the internets I saw a photo of an AT with that combo. I called both companies and they don't know either.
Thanks for the reply. I like that bash plate best, but the TT lower bars that go with it don't have the best rep. The Altrider bar sticks out more, but it seems to be stouter.
I wonder how much trimming you'd need to do to the plate -- if any -- to get it to fit with the bars. Or maybe there's a reason they just won't go together.
I'd get the Outback Motortek mid bars for more protection and not worry about the wraparound top bars. Maybe that complicates the package, because the lower and mid bars mount to the same points.
I had that skidplate on my last AT and loved it. I have the AltRider bars on my current AT and I'm like 95% sure they would be fine together, but I'm selling my AT so not spending $ to find out, lol. Even if you had to trim the plate, that's easy.