Africa Twin Premature Front Fork Failure (Current Owners and Prospective New owners Must Read)

Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by bumbee800, Sep 1, 2017.

  1. Junglejeff1

    Junglejeff1 Long timer

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    What william said and Rick will pick the spring you need.You will want non honda seals and dust seals as the stockers are under par.
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  2. Torque Request

    Torque Request Been here awhile

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    Thanks for the help guys.
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  3. Greg the pole

    Greg the pole There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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  4. Torque Request

    Torque Request Been here awhile

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    Great link, thanks!
  5. Greg the pole

    Greg the pole There are no stupid questions, only stupid people

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    thanks, I made it! :D
  6. Torque Request

    Torque Request Been here awhile

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    Okay I have read your blog post, My question is about this,

    "Remember that the guide bush will need to be shimmed to take out the slack (2016/2017/2018 regular AT tubes)"

    Right now my intention is to replace with the AS tubes and rotate the hell out of them one done, do I still need to shim the guide bushing? If I don't go this route where does one get the shims?
  7. Bolzen

    Bolzen Been here awhile

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    What the hell does that mean?
  8. Torque Request

    Torque Request Been here awhile

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    I am going to twist them in the ripples frequently, prolly 15 degrees every 500 miles
  9. mr bones

    mr bones Been here awhile

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    24,xxx km on my ATAS. 21 months old. blew a fork seal the other day. found this when going to pull the forks out, Opposite leg to the blown seal. I'll drop it up to the shop in an hour or 2 and see what they say. Could be a long wait because there's no air freight being sent at the present.
    bugger!!!! It's about the size of an Australian 20 cent piece.
    fork leg.jpg Just below the dust seal.
  10. gve.mcmlxxiv

    gve.mcmlxxiv 2016 Africa Twin DCT No.272

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    I didn’t shim with ATAS uppers. If you want to shim
    I can send you some material. There are some experts on here. I went through this as a noob and ended up fine.
  11. gve.mcmlxxiv

    gve.mcmlxxiv 2016 Africa Twin DCT No.272

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    Dang son. I’ve had rides longer than that. In all seriousness I’ve had my ATAS uppers on for 6,000 miles and no issues with no rotation. Looked inside them after 5000 and they looked new. Not like the originals.
  12. Torque Request

    Torque Request Been here awhile

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    I guess I left out "when convenient"
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    Torque Request Been here awhile

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    I just rotated the old worn old 13Ker's. No problems felt rolling, or stationary
  14. Moshaholic2

    Moshaholic2 PCUT

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    Are there preferred "up graded" bushing to use?

    I need to start accumulating parts

    And just to verify... standard AT 2018-19 forks had no upgrades over previous years. Correct?

    Best solution is still ATAS uppers, new bushings, kawasaki or better fork seals. Correct?
  15. Torque Request

    Torque Request Been here awhile

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    I've analyzed this soo much that now I'm going to get the 2019 bike with my new tubes! Seams the new bike difference is about the same $$$$ as the needed parts.

    At some point the standard AT received the coated tubes. You are on track with our solution, some may add ATAS inners as well
  16. gve.mcmlxxiv

    gve.mcmlxxiv 2016 Africa Twin DCT No.272

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    I did ATAS uppers only. It’s a good time to get better springs in there too.
  17. gve.mcmlxxiv

    gve.mcmlxxiv 2016 Africa Twin DCT No.272

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    I also have a theory that part of people’s siticktion issues is because the springs are so weak it doesn’t take much To bind up because the push is so weak
  18. Jollyrogers

    Jollyrogers Long timer

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    So is this addressed in the standard 2020 AT now? Is the standard using the same fork setup as the ATAS? My local dealer has one and I am interested only if it has been changed over.
  19. merc16

    merc16 Been here awhile

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    I second this question please.
  20. Quercus petraea

    Quercus petraea Been here awhile

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    New 2020 both AT and ATAS have same NEW fork tubes, and they are thicker and stronger than 2016-2019 standard AT. They should be ok
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