Air Filter Talk

Discussion in 'Parallel World (790/890)' started by truckergemi, Dec 10, 2019.

  1. Zuber

    Zuber Zoob Supporter

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    I haven't verified this - The KTM PP filter (non-Aus model) has been withdrawn from sale. Just too many motors dusted out. If you have one of the 'POS' filters, lose it right now.

    I've seen one that was ruined by 3000 miles when the filter pulled away and dumped dirt. Needed the upper case/cylinders replaced along with valves. Owner was lucky, KTM warranty and KTM part, so it was all covered.
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  2. ramirin

    ramirin Ready to push

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    Can you post a part number? I bought some washable pp filter among other stuff but haven't installed yet..
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  3. SoilSampleDave

    SoilSampleDave Dr. Zaius was right!

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    I didn’t think Rottweiler had a product ready yet?
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  4. Zuber

    Zuber Zoob Supporter

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    I didn't see the filter. From the description, it sounded just like the picture posted on pg 1. Filter collapsed in the middle and pulled away from the edges.
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  5. nibby

    nibby Been here awhile

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    where did you hear it had been withdrawn??

    they are still showing it on the pp website this end?? part no: 63506915000 - Although they are not showing a picture and they did previously but it's the same part number as previous ones.
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  6. Noyah

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  7. ramirin

    ramirin Ready to push

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    Not kidding here..

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  8. El Fidde

    El Fidde Adventurer

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    I can vouch for this set up. I have been on the road for 6 weeks and covered 7500kms. I have been to a local KTM shop twice to have the air filters serviced. The pre filters are def's carrying the main filtering load. The main filter is only getting a little dirty and you can see that no dust is getting past it. There is also a foam filter under the airbox lid. Some air (therefore dust) gets pulled through the middle of the lid and that filter is definitely helping the cause... sorry no pics of the other filters dirty, just pre-filters.

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  9. AdvRonski

    AdvRonski They call me......Ronski

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  10. blackSP

    blackSP 62 6c 61 63 6b 53 50

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    I just installed the oz unifilter but it hardly fits in the black plastic stock frame. You have to really bend and push it to get the filter in. Anyway, it's in now, greased the sides as well but I wonder how long before the frame brakes. Or is there an alternative oz frame that I didn't order?

    What is the proper installation procedure, couldn't find one.

    Any help or links appreciated.
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  11. TrailTrauma

    TrailTrauma Nemophilist

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    TTT. You fellas making headway on this sucker? This was almost 6 weeks ago. We deserve another teaser ;)
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  12. PowerCell

    PowerCell Manufacture Super Supporter Supporter

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  13. slacker83

    slacker83 Been here awhile Supporter

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    Awesome been waiting for a good solution for the stock filter.
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  14. coloktmGS

    coloktmGS Been here awhile

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    ETA?
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  15. Teamrat

    Teamrat Adventurer

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    Interesting.... just had a text from my KTM dealer here in NZ. They are to supply a replacement filter (Oz Unifilter) in place of the PP one that the NZ bikes came standard with. As I already have one with spare elements it is a bonus to get a complete spare assembly.
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  16. guglemonster

    guglemonster Crivens!!! Supporter

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    ouch that really hurt !!!!

    K&N street multy layer at the electronic microscope, 55 enhancements ;)

    filtro-aria-moto-3.jpg

    our matrix filter at 236 enhacements, yep 6 times

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    and this is what we do when sand and dust are sucked in BIG TIME in the desert

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    Il-Cammello-Arancione-1.jpg

    no, we are not a K&N type of filter nor a weak foam filter, or a weak paper filter, and no, we do not need any prefilters that need steel to avoid being sucked in, and no, we do not cut power or dimish air flow...... we just protect big time ;)

    cheers
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  17. 1coolbanana

    1coolbanana Long timer

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    Guglatech is good stuff :thumb
    Highly recommended.
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  18. Toddv

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    So this
    Is it a dry filter that can be beat out on the trail rather than having to go through the whole wash/re-oil thing?
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  19. SoilSampleDave

    SoilSampleDave Dr. Zaius was right!

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    Haven't tried the Guglatech yet, but I wouldn't run a K&N filter if you gave me one and it had a $100 bill in the box.
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  20. guglemonster

    guglemonster Crivens!!! Supporter

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    damn, you're making me make an advert !!! ;)

    it all depends on the use, street sure, soap and water or simple water, totally dry, if dust, we are talking about a totally new saturation level, hundreds of grams of dust before reaching saturation, again only soap and water and re-oiling. nothing, starting from the original form/shape/surface can be only dry, they would never cope with the fine dust, say belo 10 microns, you need oil for that kind of filtration efficiency.
    To achieve a below 10 microns filtration efficiency level keeping the same air flow/speed/"pressure" you would need a filter with almost 10 times more "breathing" surface, these levels are obtained in special "white chamber" filters, working with active pressure and special multilayers whoge surface filters elements, nothing that can be replicated on a simple motorcycle....... yet :augie:augie:augie (WE ARE working on that too :bmwrider:bmwrider:bmwrider)

    we do not suffer from surface saturation (like foam filters that need the dust cover) nor the dust penetration tipcal for the cotton filters. we are obsessed with protection.

    cheers
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