Airbags, your personal experience

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by KiLeR650, Feb 9, 2020.

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Airbags?

  1. If it's good enough for Lord Rossi, it's good enough for me

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  2. Helmets will snap your neck, kid

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  3. I'm waiting until the come free with my milk crate

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  4. More computers?! No.

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  5. More computers?! Yes.

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  6. My goldwing has one built in!

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  7. I'm airbag-curious

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  8. It's going to rain when Loaded goes to work on this pole

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  1. KiLeR650

    KiLeR650 tjoseph is unethical.

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    Do you, or someone you know, ride with an airbag jacket/suit/vest? What are your personal experiences with them?

    Are they comfortable? Have you ever seen one deploy accidentally? Have you been an unwilling crash test dummy in one?

    Are there any little "gotcha's" about wearing one that you wish you would have known before hand? What should someone with little/no knowledge about this relatively new type of product know before plopping down some dosh?
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  2. Daboo

    Daboo Been here awhile

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    There's some other threads on the subject. What makes this thread different?
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  3. KiLeR650

    KiLeR650 tjoseph is unethical.

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    A fun poll? It's near the top? You're the first reply? Lots of things.

    What do you think is different?
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  4. Daboo

    Daboo Been here awhile

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    "pole"?

    Per Merriam-Webster
    And if you were trying to conduct a "poll", you didn't even spell it correctly. Not much thought in what you were asking, was it? You left off some valid questions.

    Why don't you read the recent threads on the subject, then come back with some specific questions. I think I'll go watch reruns of MacGyver.
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  5. KiLeR650

    KiLeR650 tjoseph is unethical.

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    Enjoy your MacGyver, sourpants. Thanks for stopping by long enough to threadshit.
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  6. Motopsychoman

    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur Supporter

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    Been wearing my Helite Turtle for almost 3 years now. It is definitely something I wear every time I ride.

    I have not been successful in accidentally setting it off. Forgetting to disconnect myself when climbing off the bike is a common occurrence but it takes a really good yank to fire the CO2 cartridge.

    Fortunately I've not yet had to test its effectiveness.

    It weighs a few pounds, but I removed the back protector in my jacket since I always wear the vest and it has one that is at least as good. The added weight isn't noticeable to me.

    The Turtle doesn't badly interfere with the vents on my jacket so no real difference in airflow/ventilation. I've heard that it does block some vents on some other styles/brands of jackets.

    The only annoyance for me is the Turtle does partially block the pockets on my jacket, making it more of a challenge getting things in and out when I need to.

    I think for the money it is cheap insurance and not too inconvenient. I've read about the more sophisticated airbag vests/jackets/suits and still think simple is the best.
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  7. KiLeR650

    KiLeR650 tjoseph is unethical.

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    That looks neat.


    Was it difficult to find a place to attach the tether where it allows enough movement to stand up, but isn't flopping in the wind when sitting?
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  8. Motopsychoman

    Motopsychoman Not a total poseur Supporter

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    Tether attaches to the frame right at the front of the seat. No problems on either of my bikes. The stock tether is long enough for me (5'8") to stand on the pegs, but Helite does have an optional long tether available.
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  9. PTJCAL

    PTJCAL Adventurer

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  10. appliance57

    appliance57 Long timer

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    I use a hit air - spidery construction for minimal weight and air vent interference. Haven't crashed, and haven't set it off accidentally.
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  11. Peanut_Buttery

    Peanut_Buttery Been here awhile

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    I had a tether-based airbag that didn’t work in a crash. So I switched to a Tech-Air Street and haven’t looked back; I much prefer the Alpinestars system:

    However, my main advice would be to try on as many airbag jackets as you can. Fit is crucial, because the weight of the airbag (only) disappears when the jacket fits you well.
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  12. alienbogey

    alienbogey Been here awhile

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    I have the Helite leather jacket for the street and their vest for the track. I've never had the airbag deploy when it wasn't supposed to. I have had it deploy three times when it was supposed to.

    1. I stupidly dropped my bike in a gravel driveway and as I gave up and rolled away from it the leather jacket airbag deployed. Didn't make a difference at 2mph, but it certainly worked.

    2. Next deployment was when I looped a wheelie at low speed. The airbag may have reduced bruising a little, but it did nothing to help my bruised pride.

    3. Vest deployed in a fairly hard crash in a race at 50-60mph. That one definitely made a big difference - my only sore spots were in areas not covered by the airbag. VERY glad that I had it on.

    There are advantages and disadvantages to each system. A significant advantage to the Helite lanyard system is that it takes about 45 seconds to unscrew a spent CO2 cartridge and screw in a new one. Helite says after 5 deployments you should send it in for inspection. I understand that the electronic airbag systems require return to the maker for reset after a deployment.
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    Lowndes Been here awhile

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  14. dolomoto

    dolomoto Destroyer of Motorcycles

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    I've been looking for a sport-touring-ish 2 piece, mostly leather suit. The Aerostich Transit piqued my curiosity (I've been wearing 'stich gear for over 20 years)...at that price point, there are many other options including airbag options. I've mostly settled on the next suit having an integrated airbag and I've spent a fair amount of time looking at the Alpinestar, Dainese and Helite leather airbag jackets. I really like the non-tethered models for no other particular reason that I think it's interesting that race tech has trickled into the street market.

    I've also looked at a few custom leather makers (ex. BKS ) who make gear that integrates airbag technology (airbag vest is worn under the suit and can be switched between compatible jackets). I live in NE Italy, home to Dainese, Spidi, Clover and many other manufacturers (although not much is made in Italy anymore); the nearby moto stores are well stocked with the big brands in just about every size.

    I'm leaning towards the Dainese Racing 3 D-Air (and matching pants). I have a 'stich Darien jacket and pants for all weather touring. All other times, I'd likely wear the airbag jacket/pants.

    I'm headed to Tunisia soon (where Dainese has a large factory), I wonder if it would be worth it to look for a D-Air jacket there?
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  15. borscht zanetti

    borscht zanetti Pura Vida ! ... eh?

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    Been wearing a HitAir jacket for 3 years.
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  16. TheBritAbroad

    TheBritAbroad Just ride.

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    HitAir MLV-RC (it’s black but has highly reflective dots all over it at night). Been wearing it for a couple of years and I don’t notice I have it on, I just leave it on my jacket. Never set it off accidentally but might have come close a few times to begin with when in gas stations forgetting to unclip the tether...

    I was pretty set on not getting an air vest, thinking it would be too hot and too much hassle but it is neither and now I feel pretty vulnerable if I don’t have it on (bit like the feeling of not having a crash helmet on). Having had broken ribs in the past even if it just saves the hassle and pain of a broken rib one day, let alone anything more serious, it will have been worth it.

    https://www.hit-air.ca/store/p2/MLVRC.html#/
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  17. Peanut_Buttery

    Peanut_Buttery Been here awhile

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    I like the look of the Racing 3 D-Air jacket. However, either BKS or Hideout will be considerably higher quality. (BKS uses the Tech-Air. Hideout normally uses the In&Motion airbag, but can use other airbags.)

    Both companies offer a lot more than you can see on their websites. Hideout and BKS specialise in bespoke clothing, so you can request anything you want (leather, ventilation, colour and design). I’ve no doubt Hideout could integrate an airbag into their Hi-Pro textile clothing too.

    BKS and Hideout use only the very highest quality leather. What is the Tutu leather used in Dainese’s Racing 3 jacket?

    [​IMG]
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  18. dolomoto

    dolomoto Destroyer of Motorcycles

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    Dainese Hit Air jacket and pants are about $1800 USD. BKS+airbag vest is $2500-3000. I recognize that those leathers would likely last the rest of my riding career and I could change out the vest as tech changes or equipment wears out. Interesting...
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  19. KiLeR650

    KiLeR650 tjoseph is unethical.

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    Lots of discussion in that link about there not being a testing standard ... but there is. The EU has testing and certification standards for motorcycle airbags vests like they do for armor and helmets.
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  20. spuh

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    When I saw "goes to work on this pole", I wondered if you meant a stripper pole? And, would a heterosexual male suffer mental trauma from watching that pole "work"?

    But seriously, I've had a Hit Air for several years now without an "involuntary test". I wear it for pavement rides and a neck brace for dirt rides. I alway seem to remember to disconnect as I dismount; problem is remembering to connect the lanyard before starting. Clipping the Fastex buckle one handed at 60mph CAN be done but does take a lot of finesse, attention and mostly, luck. Probably should be considered distracted driving.
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