AJP PR7 650. Single cyl factory built hard-Adv bike!

Discussion in 'Australia' started by Blakduk, Feb 25, 2015.

  1. UTB

    UTB Been here awhile

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    I'm most intrigued on where they landed on the ABS issue. I'm guessing that they are counted as a sale in November to beat the deadline?
  2. dunc

    dunc Coddiwompler Supporter

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    so maybe excempt with those conditions for abs :hmmmmm
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  3. Tenerrod

    Tenerrod Make it shiny

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    That has been my understanding as well after lot's of reading up TWO years ago.
    I stopped reading up when the PR7 has issues both mechanical and supply.
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  4. saltyD

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    I think that oversimplifies it. I can't see the PR7 meeting an exemption category.

    https://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/F2017L01554

    6. EXEMPTIONS AND ALTERNATIVE PROCEDURES
    6.1. Category LC vehicles designed for use on loose or unsealed surfaces or unformed roads and that are fitted with tyres appropriate for use on those surfaces are exempt from clauses 5.2. and 5.3. where they conform to a vehicle category specified in Annex 1 or clauses 6.1.1. to 6.1.7.
    (forget these, 6.1.6 says < 250cc)

    Annex 1:
    1. ENDURO MOTORCYCLE, CATEGORY L3E-AXE (X = 1, 2 OR 3)
    1.1. (a) seat height ≥ 900 mm and
    1.2. (b) ground clearance ≥ 310 mm and
    1.3. (c) overall gear ratio in highest gear (primary gear ratio × secondary gear ratio in the highest speed × final drive ratio) ≥ 6.0 and
    1.4. (d) mass in running order plus the mass of the propulsion battery in case of electric or hybrid electric propulsion ≤ 140 kg and
    1.5. (e) no seating position for a passenger.


    c) you can work around (sprockets). d) is where the PR7 gets unstuck... and 'mass in running order' is 90% fuel load.
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  5. UTB

    UTB Been here awhile

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    +1 (we went round this loop didn't we?)

    I may be being over cautious but I don't like the lack of clarity around this. If it does apply what does it mean for the future imports (including cost)?
  6. Tenerrod

    Tenerrod Make it shiny

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  7. Tenerrod

    Tenerrod Make it shiny

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    Doesn't matter anyway.
    $17499 plus $1500 for the power up kit makes it a $19k bike now.
    Forget about it!
  8. braaap!

    braaap! Long timer

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    It’s only money and you’re a long time dead… Keep the faith!
    Seriously considering placing a deposit on one :thumb
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  9. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    At @ AUD 17 - 18,5 K (RRP sticker price) for the KTM and Husqvarna equivalents (stock standard dual sport ready) the AJP is still a viable option at that price I reckon; when you consider that you can roll it out the showroom door as is, and not have to DIY all of the fairing/rally "Adventure" bits and pieces. OK - the tank is still a tad shy perhaps - as are the 690/701 in standard form also. "Unicorn farkling"... it's a big dollars pass time. :1drink

    The orange and blue still have the advantage of a comprehensive dealer network support though.
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  10. UTB

    UTB Been here awhile

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    It's this sort of talk plus a good dose of the Friday feeling that usually precedes my Mondays buyers remorse....
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  11. Cruz

    Cruz Lost but laughing.

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    What would a 701/690 cost to bring it up to the same offering as the PR7?
  12. Anders-

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    A $60 windscreen and a €400 underseat tank.
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  13. Tenerrod

    Tenerrod Make it shiny

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    My closest AJP dealer, 3000+ km.
    Husky shop around the corner.
    Most of the east coast are over 500km from a dealer.
    Cost of ownership, wake up to yourselves.

    Bye.
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  14. troy safari carpente

    troy safari carpente Team f5oolery

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    Changed perspectives...?

    Nov 2016:
    That's quite a journey you've made there Rumpelstiltskin... from 2016 :stupid until today...

    :1drinkor should I say... good morning? :rofl:wave
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  15. jack82

    jack82 Been here awhile

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    The PR7 is the classic "coulda been champion". A great design let down by a slack factory/importer.

    The bikes have had a raft of issues which should have been sorted after the first/second year. It's been the dedicated Aussie riders that have found and fixed these problems. And now we have a new importer who are bringing a grand total of 10 bikes in the first shipment (due late Feb 2022). Price is $17,500 plus on roads.....but subject to change. :D....Powerup kit is $ 1500. They are taking deposits so get your wallet out.

    Dealerships.....3 in QLD....1 in the ACT....1 in VIC. The VIC dealer is in the small regional town of Mansfield.

    So what we have here is a bike that is dearer than a 690/701, or a Yam T7, and has fuckall dealerships, backup and aftermarket. In the end it's just an old Husky motor in a nicely designed chassis with a rally fairing. :1drink
  16. Dr AT

    Dr AT Long timer

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    Surely they can just use the electrics from the swm superdual abc?

    To be fair, Troy, he put a huge effort into getting his local dealer on board . But 5 years later there is an even smaller dealer network and much higher price.

    I got VERY close to buying one of these after a test ride but was put off by teething problems with the first batch. It's now 5 years later and it doesn't look like huge advances have been made to justify the price hike
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  17. toramorgan

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    There’s a lot demand in Spain (long waiting lines). Prices are going up, but you can still get it for 12.000 EUR with the upgrade kit included.

    So far not a lot of dealers in Spain either.
  18. Tenerrod

    Tenerrod Make it shiny

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    Sorry for the slow reply, l was putting my energy into something worthwhile.

    I have introduced and discussed the PR7 at length with three dealers, introducing the importer to one of them way back in the beginning.
    You must be fucking bored, why don't you go buy one?
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  19. UTB

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    Sooo - what I found out at the weekend:

    I spoke to Magoo at Madadv - seems like a good bloke:
    • MadAdv are not the importer of AJP - the importers are AJP Australia who unlike the previous importer will not be dealing direct, only through dealers
    • The PR7 will not need ABS (not sure why but apparently they won't)
    • As soon as the bikes are in the container and shipping costs and exchange rates are known - the price will be fixed. Should be around November.
    • It is hoped that they will have a demo bike when they arrive.

    I went into the local Husqvarna dealer to inquire about a 701
    • Price is $18k on road
    • They have no stock and don't expect stock for 2 months
    • The last stock they had sold in 6 days and a recent second hand machine they had sold in 5 days.
    • They don't have much margin on dirt bikes (so don't expect to negotiate much)
    • The salesman made it pretty clear that he'd be doing me a favor to sell me one (which shit me a fair bit TBH).
    In terms of 701 upgrades
    • A fairing / screen / tower seems to be north of $2k
    • Rally pegs / seat / barkbusters - allow about $1k
    • So I'm budgeting about $4k (including for all the other stuff I've forgotten / don't know about)

    I was leaning to the 701 until the trip to the dealer. Now I'm leaning towards keeping my DR going for another 6 months and then having a re-think.
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  20. Anders-

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    If you end up going down the ktm/husky route, the dealers have more of a margin on powerparts - so if you look into sweetening the deal a bit ask about that (assuming there's some extras you plan to purchase anyway).
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