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Discussion in 'Dakar champion (950/990)' started by viatormundi, May 10, 2006.
that was great!
I love how they sound as well.
i have a vid you can hear some riding under diff conditions with it:
(You can fast forward a couple minutes in, but i have 3-4 minutes of recorded riding with the pipes.. )
Any way you go, just getting those stock exhaust pipes will save you a ton of weight (and uncork if you hadn't already pulled the cat out)
Which ever way you go, I'm sure you'll be happy. :)
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I can't say I've been a fan of FMF products, but I do not have any gripes about my new cans. My main objectives was to lose the heavy cats and to have something legal for off-road use. I really prefer Staintunes for their durability and slightly metallic sounds, but $1,000 without any spark arrestors was a bit tough to swallow.
Since I live in southern California, it was important to buy a "certified" exhaust to avoid hassles from a Deputy Dog Dipshit Ranger and not merely modify a can with my own spark arrestors.
So, these were $719 (delivered) from ktm-parts.com and comes with approved USFS spark arrestors and most importantly weigh 15 lbs. or so less than stock cans, cool off quickly and have a nice mellow sound. They are quiet as stock cans at idle, but I have about 3,000 miles on them and I think they are slightly louder than when new. A little packing blew out the first 100 miles or so, but it stopped after that......Enjoy.....hard to beat for the money and off-raod legal status........
Each stock muffler weighs just over 10 pounds each. The FMF Ti can are over 4 lbs each. So 11-12 pounds lighter in total. There are no aftermarket KTM mufflers that are 15 pounds lighter than stock.
Everyone has a cost/ value opinion...
I don't know about the rest of you guys but when I looked at the quality of construction between the FMF and Akras there was no comparison. Although the performance is debatable, the FMF are manufactured more cheaply compared to the Akras.
I put a set of Akras on the 950 at 600 miles, they have a nice throaty sound, not too loud for me. The tone and percussion are entirely different depending on the RPM. Above 4 K they hummmm.
Also going with customized spark arrestor insert as others have mentioned.
Anyway, the point was I took a look at several silencers and went with the scorpion based entirely on the quality of welds, fit, material, and a solid feel.
Although,... gotta admit the stock pipes are beefy and solid.
Great boat anchors.
Hi guys, which one increase power ? I'd install any exaust if I'm gonna get some performance increase...does it make sense ?
...I'd like to see a set of FMF Ti Q's on my 990... anyone done it? My gut feel is that the stock FI mapping would be fine... buuuuuut anyone done it?
 FMF's site has the Ti-Q set for the '08 990s... wonder if they are just using stock mapping or the akro map? Anyone? Bueller?
Love my Akro's. Yup, they are expensive, but they are the best I have seen. Take out the baffles and make sure to get the Fi remapped. I also added a new throttle cam (one of those adj ones, but I can't remember the brand) and the three mods together made it a totally different machine! :eek1
Then I took it to Baja and pounded on some big BMWs... they all kept telling me how great it sounded... typical BMW riders... more worried about looks and sound and not paying attention to performance... LOL
Just a comment on the Leo Vince, they use a different mid-pipe so if you wanted to switch to a 2-1 system they won't work as they have their own can attachment system that is different than stock and most of the other "slip-on" systems.
At the risk of asking a silly question - is any change required (mixture or jetting) to swap between inserts-in and inserts-out with Akras (for a 950Adv)?
What he said. My dealer and his riding partner both run 990s, and his partner's has FMF pipes. According to my dealer, when they drag race there's no real difference but the FMFs sound cooler. Hmmmmm.... I'd spend the money for the performance if it was there.
Can anybody post dyno results?
I love my Wings, very good looking shape(NOS) and sweet sound, even more powerful with DNA high performance air filter
Does anybody have pics of the Leo Vince pipes installed on a 950? and the $649 price includes Both?
I just got me 2-1 setup in today with the Remus Revolution. Remus says they have a spark arrestor, but it lacks the USFS stamp and will fail the stick test. Looks like the only option for USFS approved pipe is FMF.
new Leovince ...
Just a note on the Leos. I don't know if everyones does it, but the oval shape hangs a bit low. On full rear compression, the rear brake caliper smashes into the right pipe. Ir breaks off the bleeder zerk and punches a hole in the pipe. This is on a 04 950S so maybe the other bikes don't have the same amount of rear suspension travel so it's a non-issue.
After a very deep inspection of my Remus Revolution. I can say that mine does not have a "turbine" style spark arrestor. The screen that is in the beginning of the pipe has far too large of openings to meet USFS spects. I have serious concerns with this pipe starting a fire.
Hi guys. I´m looking for a carbon fiber accessory that conduct the warm air flow from the fan to inside the bike and not to the rider´s left knee. You can imagine this kind of problem in tha Atacama desert, no?
Thanks for any help, spcl if the maker/ store is in USA. scorza
Oh men...I laughed so hard at your message :)
The part where you called the Adv a millitairy grade jungle assault vehicle... awesome!! :)
Grmbl... 1 year old post [/edit]
IMO, Wings are the best looking, best sound and build quality of them all. My '09 990 runs so sweet now i have had them fitted and mapped to the slightly louder inserts.
These are made specifically for KTM, and really look good on this bike.
Check 'em out. www.wings.si