Alaska 2021 Trip Planning; Post Covid-19...

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  1. black 8

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    The saga continues...

    Canada-U.S. border restrictions <<< link

    "As of July 21, 2020, the restriction on all discretionary travel at the Canada-U.S. border that was initially implemented on March 21, 2020, was extended until August 21, 2020. This applies to all foreign nationals with some exceptions for immediate family members (see section below). Potential travellers should consult the Border Information Service for information.

    Examples of discretionary/optional travel include:
    • tourism
    • recreation
    • entertainment"
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  2. Bigbob1

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    Yes, the saga continues. No trips for us this year.
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  3. rickj

    rickj Been here awhile Supporter

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    Rudy,

    Like I mentioned to you the other day while we were on our SD County ride, Don and I are now contemplating a ride to Alaska for the summer of 2021. I'm trying to convince a brother of mine to go as well.

    I had previously mentioned that we were tentatively planning on heading north with the travel travel trailer in tow, but Marilyn is no longer retiring at the end of this year as planned, so that trip will probably (hopefully) happen in 2022.

    Since Don will likely still be working we'll probably be limited to 3 weeks again like our 2018 Ride to Alaska. We'll probably also use the same approach as we did last time in that we'll ship the bikes to Spokane, fly up, and then ride off from there. Same for the return home - drop the bikes at the depot in Spokane and fly home. Easy. I think that trip ended up costing less than shipping the bikes back from Anchorage, and the logistics were pretty easy to work out. Of course, we were able to skip the long ride up through CA, OR, and WA before getting into BC where the real ride begins (IMO). Best of all, it gave us a few extra days riding up north and also allowed us to ride up the Alcan and back on the Cassiar.

    For that trip we had a overall route but very little pre-planning, and the only reservations we made in advance were for Dawson. We mostly camped. We thought that we'd switch up this next trip and only camp when necessary so we'd be travelling lighter, but that's in the air due to the COVID-19 outbreak. It may be prudent to mostly camp again. That will likely be a game time decision.

    Assuming we solidify our plans and commit to a 2021 Alaska ride, we should coordinate a bit and plan on meeting up along the way to get in some riding together.

    Rick
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  4. black 8

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    That'd be great Rick...

    As we get closer to the start of next year's riding season I'll get the timeline and places that I'd like to visit out on the thread...
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  5. Hamamelis

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    One thing I haven't seen talked about in these threads as much, but how is the Alaska Marine Highway System holding up at present? Because that seems like a (potentially) viable alternative if the Canadian border is closed, at least on paper
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  6. Bigbob1

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    The ferry system is up and running on a reduced schedule.You need a covid test to sail and if anyone gets sick they tie up in the nearest community that can test and isolate everyone. The ferry comes from Bellingham WA about once a month and costs $$$
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  7. Hamamelis

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    Hmm, needing a fresh CoVID-19 test seems like a potential hassle but, hey, it's an option
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  8. AllSeasonRider

    AllSeasonRider Wandering, maybe a little lost...

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    I've not verified this, so please take with a grain of salt and do your own research:

    Someone mentioned in another thread that folks were able to cross into Canada with the purpose of transit to Alaksa, but if you're caught going off course (I take this to mean a direct route in a reasonable amount of time) they are getting fined $1200 or $1600 (can't recall), and that some have been fined for doing so. This is unverified info, just sharing something I've heard that I haven't seen posted anywhere else. It would make for a less-than-ideal transit through Canada, but surely cheaper than the ferries, and leaves the schedule a little flexible. If it's true, that is.
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  9. black 8

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    The Alaska Marine Highway System and "fly and ride" to Alaska are certainly viable options but comes with certain hurdles that needs to be addressed if you travel now... as Bigbob stated....$$$ is the biggest hurdle for some at an extra $2K or so just for passage to/from Belligham and Whittier, not including a cabin or food for 5 days x2 for a round trip, although you can sleep on the deck or atrium and bring your own food...

    As of August 11th 2020: HERE

    "All Non-Alaska Residents entering Alaska from another state or country must:

    Submit a Travel Declaration and Self-Isolation Plan Through the Portal and Arrive with proof of a qualifying negative COVID-19 test.

    or

    Follow the work plan that your employer filed with the State of Alaska.

    or

    Purchase a COVID-19 test for $250 when you arrive in Alaska, and self-quarantine at your expense until results arrive."​
    ---- Brake----

    While I can only speak for myself, I choose to ride up to Alaska for the sheer magnitude of the landscapes that British Columbia and the Yukon offers... I have seen a few places when I made the trek in 2017 but there are lots more to explore!

    Taking the AMHS or doing a "fly and ride" option means that I'll miss the awesome scenery of the Canadian Rockies. There's just something about being on the road for 30+ days on the bike, meeting other riders en-route, camping, having the ambiance of a fire at night with adult beverage in hand at the end of a day's ride...

    I get it, if riders want to go that route, more power to 'em if they are under a time constraint... anyway that you can get to Alaska is better than none... but I want the full monty. That's just my preference...

    If 2021 doesn't pan out due to slow vaccine distribution, then I'll push to 2022. I have a feeling that we'll never eradicate COVID-19 even with the vaccine... There is still no cure for the common cold or flu...

    just entered BC on Hwy 97C...
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    just outside Whitehorse, YT...
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    Pickhandle Lake, YT...
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    That amount is probably the more realistic amount the Canadian's are issuing at the moment... I know I don't have $750K Canadian laying around....

    Officials crack down on Alaska-bound travellers crossing U.S.-Canada border <<<

    Quick facts: HERE
    • The Canada-U.S. temporary border restriction put in place on March 21 at 12:01 am EDT continues. All discretionary/optional travel remains prohibited.

    • Foreign nationals are only admitted to Canada in circumstances where the traveller is considered to be transiting through to Alaska for a non-discretionary purpose such as work or going to primary residence.

    • As of March 31, 2020, travellers arriving in Canada must provide their contact information to a border services officer (either by paper, online, via the ArriveCAN app or verbally to the officer) when seeking entry. This information is collected on behalf of the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) to support their compliance and enforcement of the 14-day quarantine or isolation requirement outlined in Order in Council 2020-0524.

    • The CBSA collects contact information on behalf of PHAC who, along with provincial/territorial health authorities, monitor and track individuals from a public health perspective.

    • Failure to comply with the current border restrictions is an offence under the Quarantine Act and could lead to up to $750,000 in fines, and/or imprisonment of up to 6 months. If a traveller causes a risk of imminent death or serious bodily harm to another person while willfully or recklessly contravening this act or the regulations, they could be liable for up to $1,000,000 in fines, and/or imprisonment of up to 3 years.

    • For the latest on cross-border programs and services, travellers can call the CBSA’s Border Information Service at 1-800-461-9999.
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  11. Bigbob1

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    The border closure has been extended to Sept 21st.
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  12. AllSeasonRider

    AllSeasonRider Wandering, maybe a little lost...

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    I just did Alaska and Tuk last year... not sure if COVID is just giving me the travel bug, but I'm seriously considering going back next year and hitting some of the places I skipped/missed last year. Took the 1090 last time, would do it on the 690 this time...
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  13. CavReconSGT

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    I am looking forward to the trip to Deadhorse and Tuk that I had planned for this year. Planning on leaving one year late, May 1 2021.

    KR
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  14. Migolito

    Migolito Prognosticator and MotoYogi

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    I'm looking to go for D2D then either tuk of dead horse.
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  15. mb289

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    I'm also planning the D2D and then Deadhorse in 2021. I will probably attend a day or two of the MOA rally in Great Falls.
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  16. black 8

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    Same here. Alaska is so big that it's impossible to see and do it all in one trip...

    I lived up there for two years from '05 to '07 but work prevented me from doing everything I wanted. So now that I'm retired I can stay out for as long as I want or until I deplete my "for adventure only" account...
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  17. HatesSnow

    HatesSnow Waiting for Summer

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    The estimates I've seen for the border is that unfortunately, unless something changes drastically for the better, it will probably be closed (at the least) until late next year. As a local I can say that the desire amongst the populace to reopen the border is very low, to put it mildly, so for the federal government to even consider it would be political suicide. For me this leaves several bike trips south of the border(s) on hold. It's inconvenient for sure but until we at least have a way of effectively treating, let alone preventing, the virus that's just the way it's going to be. We were doing pretty well here in BC until about a month ago when we reopened more and people thought they could just go back to the same behaviours as before - beach parties, crowding bars, house parties etc with the usual "gotta live my life" bullshit. We've also had an uptick in tourists from other provinces and that can't be helping. We went from daily numbers in the teens/low twenties to over one hundred in the past week. Fortunately the provincial gov't has introduced large fines and enforcement for not following the rules. Hopefully that will bring it back down to a dull roar. Really it just comes down to society thinking about others, following the rules and exercising some common sense. There will be time enough for parties, gatherings and socialising in groups after we get a hold on the situation but if we don't do something about it now that time will be a long way off.

    Just started working my way through your SoCal reports, I'm enjoying it. It's good stuff, great pics. This summer was going to be a trip through Wash, Ore and NorCal. My riding buddy and I have also talked about setting up a base somewhere (north or south) in California for a couple weeks and riding out from there late (for us) in the riding season. I don't know when that'll be now but I'll be taking notes as I scroll through your posts.
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  18. CavReconSGT

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    I am hoping you are wrong. My belief is that there will be a vaccine available by January. I intend to take it. I am hoping that Canada (and other countries) will allow travel with proof of the vaccine. That is what I am hoping. We will see.

    KR
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    You go first. As much as I am hoping to get my adventure on the road, I am not inclined to be at the head of the line for something that may have been promoted without due diligence, purely for political expedience.

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    CavReconSGT Just the right amount of evil. Supporter

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    I'm an EMT, as such, I am supposed to be at the head of the line anyway. 10 years ago we had one of our weekly classes about how a pandemic would be handled in the state (CT). In the plan was that medical workers would receive a vaccine first in efforts to keep us safe as well as being used to immunize others if necessary. I am aware there are possible risks with this but that is my current plan.

    I will keep an eye on the protocols and how they are treated but currently, I am not particularly worried. Of course if you have some inside information that I should be aware of, I'd listen.

    KR
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