Alaska One Time...

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  1. CaptUglyDan

    CaptUglyDan Been here awhile

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    Bullshit
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  2. fastpast

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    Can't wait to read your report. You will have a fantastic trip. Everything will fall into place.
    Cheers
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    Hay let us know how the Traction Taters do, handling, noise, wear n tear, etc.

    Best wishes on your trip--just got back home from the NW Canada/AK tour a few days ago. Be prepared for rain. And wind. And warm sun. And overcast. And fog. And skeeters. Oh and bears. And something called "kill ah mutters". And
    friendly faces everywhere, humble folks without temptation....
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  4. teamkabob

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    Awesome pretrip report! Safe travels!
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  5. Lime

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    Just for information. I spent $2750US driving from Kansas City to the Arctic Circle, 21 days, 9000 miles, (Just travel expenses no equipment). Camped 15 nights, Hotel 4 nights, Dorm room in Fairbanks one night. I wouldn't say I splurged on anything. Ate most meals in restaurants so I wouldn't have to worry about camping with bears & food. Averaged about 37mpg on a 2007BMW GSA. I think $5.50/gallon was the highest I had to pay. For the most part fuel was easier to find than I had thought but did run into a couple of spots where it was about 220-250 miles between fuel stops ( not on the main highways). Used credit card most of the time. A few places required cash. Gravel roads were mostly good when dry. When wet they were first & second gear. Saw lots of black bears & bison, a few moose, elk and caribou. Didn't get to see a grizzly though.
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  6. Twojump36

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    Hello Folks,

    Just doing a little follow up on the ride to Alaska and Ride Report,... "Riding Alaska One Time"

    You may or may not remember that after the ride ended in Anchorage, I'd had booked the shipping of my bike back to the Lower 48 through a company called Alaska Car Transport.
    Alaska Car Transport was to handle all the crating and freight back to Kent Washington. They came very well recommended from many different motorcycle companies in the Alaska area.... Phil Freeman from Motoquest also recommended them, as did House of Harley in Anchorage and a few others.

    Alaska Car Transport uses a company called Classic Motion to crate the bike, disconnect the battery... all the stuff to get it ready to get on the ship. They even deliver the crated bike to the dock.
    After riding for over two weeks, I had my bike at Classic Motion in Anchorage at the pre-arranged time on the pre-arranged day.... July 20th @10:45
    They were late running "errands" that day so they didn't meet me until 12:45... there's a cool hamburger joint next door so that's where I hung out for almost 2 hours.
    By 1:15 I walked out of the building leaving my Africa Twin bike in the corner of their shop...

    That has been the last time I've seen my bike... Monday will be one month since I dropped it off.

    I was originally told by Alaska Car Transport that if I drop my bike off on a Friday, it will ship by the following Tues or Thurs... and there would be 5 days at sea... once the container ship reached the dock, add a couple days to unload and sort it out... I'd get a call and they'll have the bike ready for me.

    I should have had the bike back by Aug 3rd by the latest I was told...

    I got an email from Alaska Car Transport on the 1st of Aug saying it should be available in the next 7 to 9 days... Ok so another week...
    Another email from them on Aug 8th saying the bike was scheduled for pickup in Kent Washington early next week... I'm thinking Monday or Tuesday...

    Today is Thursday and still no word... I called the company that handles un-crating and happens to be at the address I'm supposed to pick up my bike for any information they may have. I gave them the VIN #, the booking number, my name, phone, address, email,.... a description of the bike.... the color....
    Nothing.... they have no bike there that matches the description... they have no order to go pick up a bike... they can't help me...


    I call Alaska Car Transport this afternoon again and wait on hold for 30 mins... finally I get a human on the line... she asked my booking number.... back on hold for 5 more mins... when she comes back on and says...
    This booking can only be discussed by a "management level" employee.

    And I wonder.... Why did I have that sinking feeling back on the 20th when I dropped the bike off?

    More tomorrow when we try to solve Rubik's Cube while blindfolded followed by What happened to the lost continent of Atlantis....
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  7. Twojump36

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    Rubiks Cube got solved... now we're working on figuring out what happened to Atlantis...

    I finally got a hold of Classic Motion in Anchorage Alaska... where I dropped the bike off at on July 20th at 12:45.
    After talking to Ron with Classic Motion, I learned he is the guy that actually crated my motorcycle on the 23rd of July and delivered it to the dock on July 24th. He told me to contact Carlile... the freight company where they dropped off my crated bike. He also told me that they used the name Todd Gardner (me) and Alaska Car Transport when they filled out the Bill of Lading for the freight company. Hmmm, simple enough...

    I called Carlile Freight and asked to speak to a Shipping Specialist.... I spoke to a nice lady named Taylor... I explained what my situation is and she began to try to help me...
    She pulled her computer up and asked for a Shipping number (I don't have one) So I gave her my name... nothing... I gave her the company that's shipping for me "Alaska Car Transport" she says she see's two items shipping (awsome we're getting somewhere)... she says neither items shipping have my name on them.... I asked where's the destination.... she says Tacoma Washington..(ding ding ding!) she says there is no other information on them... hmmm how about a VIN # I asked... she says worth a try.... I give her the last 6 numbers and she says she's got something.... I ask if it's a 2016 Honda Africa Twin.... She says no.... I ask what it says?.... she says something about a Honda CRF1000... Bingo THAT'S IT! over the course of the next few minutes we went over the general information and logistics....

    She tells me the motorcycle sailed out of Anchorage on Aug 14th... (wait...what?) I said I have documentation from Classic Motion that says it was dropped off to Carlile in Anchorage on July 24th... She says who's that?.... never mind...
    Then she tells me the bike got to Carlile...(her company) on Aug 1st... and she doesn't know why it took 14 days for it to leave...or what happened from July 24th to Aug 1st.... But the ship that the bike is on just docked at 3am this morning Aug 17th...
    I asked for a Tracking Number for her company... this way I can at least see where my bike is... sort of... things are looking up at the moment...

    The address I am supposed to pick my bike up at is in Kent Washington about 4 miles from Tacoma... called KGM Motorcycle Transport so I call them and asked if they've been notified of anything to pick up from Carlile Freight Not they say.... I told them I'm supposed to pick up a bike there sometime. and they ask me who I shipped my bike through...I tell them Alaska Car Transport.... They say that they've heard lots of horror stories from them and no good ones... Go figure... I ask the lady who answered the phone to call me when they get notified to go pick up my motorcycle and she assured me they would... Nice Folks there!

    I then logged into www.carlile.biz and enter my newly found tracking number.... and this is what I find....

    The bike I dropped off in Anchorage on July 20th at Classic Motion got checked and scanned into Carlile Freight's system on Aug 1st.. (11 days after I dropped it off, and 9 days after Classic Motion dropped it off there)
    The bike / Ship sailed out of Anchorage on Aug 1st and into Tacoma Aug 4th... then it went back to Anchorage and shipped again on Aug 8th and shipped back to Tacoma where is shipped back to Anchorage and then shipped back on Aug 13th where it apparently is now... but still no guarantee it's coming off the boat...

    So I went to Alaska One Time.... but my bike has been there 4 times....

    The nightmare continues...
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  8. fastpast

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    Good luck!!!!!! How can simple things turn into ????
  9. Twojump36

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    Yeah man... I have no idea. I probably had 15-20 conversations over a 6 or 7 month planning span concerning every last detail of this process.
    Started costs associated with the service,
    How many bikes we were shipping (originally it was going to be our Harley's)
    Then my bike was the only one being shipped... (before I even owned the bike and I was still considering a KTM or KLR)
    Then the possibility of the bike being shipped to my Office and Fabrication Facility... with costs associated with that...
    The final plan to ship the bike from Anchorage to Tacoma Wa
    What address I was dropping off at? (Classic Motion)
    The day to drop off.... (July 20th)
    How long the bike would be in transport...(no more than 10 days start to finish)
    The payment... $1225
    Then them changing the payment slightly to be more money $100 +/- ( I think it was because I was using a credit card?) $1334

    ...on and on and on...

    Right after I gave them my card info over the phone about a month before we left for the trip, I got an email telling me where to drop the bike off and where I'd pick it up.

    I was never so confident in anything as I was this part of the trip... I figured some kind of weird mechanical or electrical thing would cause a problem... maybe a flat tire.

    The day I dropped the bike off at the Shipper ( Classic Motion) I had a bad feeling... I wasn't sure if it was because I waited there for over 2 hours for someone to show up...
    I wasn't sure if it was just standard operating procedure for this company... I knew how the process was supposed to work, but everything was just very simple.

    Then silence...

    Never did I think I was going to have this problem... Immediately after I dropped the bike off and all communication just stopped.

    Today is 31 days since I left the bike in someone else's hands in Anchorage Alaska.

    Saturday, after 3-4 phone calls by me to the shipping freight company (Carlile) and the help of a lady named Taylor who works for them, they realized the bike was suppose to be left in Tacoma and someone was coming for it.
    I'm told it was actually unloaded on Saturday and is waiting for someone to go pick it up. Carlile charges $52 per day for freight left on the dock so I imagine it will get picked up very soon. By who? I have no idea... I got a call today from Alaska Car Transport that there was a change and a different company is picking up my bike.... and they will call me by the 22nd to the 24th when and where I can pick it up. I still can't even buy my Amtrak ticket yet since I don't know where I'm supposed to go.
    At this point the "freight" (my motorcycle) is consigned to someone other than me. I can't just go pick it up. Even if I knew where it was.

    At least some progress has been made, even if it is very little.

    My letter from the attorney is ready to go. It is dealing with the total breakdown of their service, the failure to perform and impending suit if they can't produce my "freight"

    It's still interesting...
  10. Twojump36

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    [​IMG]Last Monday I got a surprise call from Alaska Car Transport...
    It seems the effort I’m putting out is starting to pay off a little anyway.

    They told mey bike has been unloaded and is headed to their other facility in Sumner Washington... I explained to they there isnmt another motorcycle shipper in that area... I know because I searched the entire area...
    Pamela at ACT says it’s a “new place” she tells me my bike will be ready after 1pm that day...”today”...

    I explained it’s going to take more than just a phone call and her word.. for me to go 250 miles to get it....
    i told her I need an address, and a contact number and a person who is in charge...
    She said it’s OLGA Transport gave me an address 2823 West Balley Hwy West, Sumner Wa....
    While I have her on the phone I google that address and find it doesn’t exist... West Valley East does and there is a junk yard there not a bike transport.... she said its their transporter and they have the bike....

    This is a screen shot of Alaska Car Transports motorcycle shipper...
  11. Twojump36

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    So...

    I call the number associated with the address according to google and I speak to a very nice lady from Koolite Truck Sales....
    I asked her of there is a motorcycle shipper at that address and there was a bit of a pause... she said there is a guy that leases part of the yard but he’s rarely there... “he has a car hauling trailer”

    I’m getting that “sick to my stomach” feeling again...
    I ask does he have a shop or a building? She says no, not at this address...

    I thanked her and asked is there a motorcycle crate there about 8 feet by 5 feet by 5 feet?... after she walks the yard she says no..

    I told her thanks and she says she’ll call me if one shows up...

    I called OLGA transportation

    I get... “Hello” from someone who just woke up at 10 am... I ask whats his name and he says Dmitriy...

    I ask do you have my bike.. no he says but he’s not sure if his driver has one or not...

    Oh man... here we go again....

    For the next two days I’m in contact with Dmitriy.... I get a text from him saying he’s got a crate.... I ask him for the bill of lading numbers and any identifying info on the crate... and pictures...

    He sends me these.... notice the junked cars in the back ground...[​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
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    After calling him once more to ask if he’s seen the bike in the crate, to which he says no...” he doesn’t have any tools to un crate the box”...
    Super... my bike appears to be there or at least a crate that says there’s a bike in it appears to be there...
    The guy who has it has no tools to open it....
    He has no place to store it when he does get tools to open the crate....

    I ask if he’s everun crated a bike and put it back together... “nope” was his reply...

    Says he’s going back on Saturday to tear apart the crate... say’s he’ll text me pics of the bike...

    I hang up and book my One Way Amtrak ticket to Tacoma for Monday... to potentially ride home..

    Oh and I can’t reach Dmitriy since Wednesday..

    The nightmare is real and it’s called Alaska Car Transport..
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  13. fastpast

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    I think you should of put the cap lock on when you spelled nightmare. I thought things like this only happened to me. Best of luck.
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  14. Twojump36

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    The latest news...

    The guy who rents part of the gravel junkyard says I should bring something to cut “zip ties”.... the only tools they have is pocket knives...

    LOL...
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    Hindsight being 20/20 what would you have done different? Used another shipper, or just ride it home?
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    Hindsight 20/20...
    I'd ride it home... That would add another week to my trip if I did it the same way... (I didn't have the luxury of another week this trip)...
    Or I'd have to cut short the sightseeing portion of my trip into Seward... (that leaves the wife out)...

    Solo = Riding it home would afford me the option of running a different route as well...

    I think if i were to plan it all again knowing what I know now, I'd run up to Prince George and take a left onto hwy 16 over to 37 and ride the Cassier Hwy. I'd continue to Watson Lake then head up Ross River (either by the Campbell Hwy or the Canol Road) (or ride to White Horse and go up to Carmacks on hwy 2)...then I'd do Dawson City and Top of the World Hwy into Tok...
    I'd finish the ride to Prudoe Bay...
    I'd go down the Parks Hwy to the Denali Hwy and go east to the Tok Cut-off to Tok... then follow the Alcan all the way to Fort St John...
    From there I'd take the most direct route back to Salem Oregon.

    With Wife = I'd ride up the Cassier to Dawson City and up to Prudoe Bay. Have the wife join in Fairbanks and ride to Anchorage by some route.
    Take the Ferry to Bellingham Washington and ride home from there...

    I probably would never ship my bike again.... but if I had to, I'd make the arrangements with Classic Motion in Anchorage to handle the entire process...

    In no way shape or form would I ever in my wildest dreams hire Alaska Car Transport ever again...
  17. Twojump36

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    Here's the latest...

    Aug 27th... I got on the Amtrak train in Salem Oregon bound for Tacoma... 4 hours later I grabbed a cab from Tacoma to Sumner Washington where the driver drops me off at a "Junkyard".... during the trip over there and during normal cab / fare conversations I explain why I'm there, what I'm doing, and so forth... the cab driver was as pissed as me...lol
    I paid the man and look to my left and there sits my bike... right next to the crate... in the middle of the junkyard.
    I can't hardly explain what I'm seeing... there about 5-6 men milling around the junkyard... some with shirts on and others without... I go over to the two guys standing by my bike and I ask for Dmitiry... the younger of the two guys with shirts on identifies himself as Dmitiry... I introduce myself.

    Dmitriy explains they can't get the bike started and they might need to jump start the thing...
    I ask did you hook up the battery....? That's pretty much what I thought. They were in the process of taking the foam protection off the side boxes and picking up the screws from the wooden crate when I grab the keys and opened the side box containing my tools... from there I get to sit in the sun on the gravel junkyard and proceed to hook up my battery. Once complete and put the side of the Africa Twin re-assembled, the bike fires up without incident.

    Dmitriy asks me to sign his paperwork and I refuse untill I have thoroughly inspected every inch of the bike.... after I am satisfied it has no damage, I get dressed for the 250 mile ride home and I sign his paperwork and get a copy for my records.

    I ask what are all these junked cars doing here?.... the rest of the guys are loading cars onto car haulers and some are unloading other cars off of car haulers... Dmitriy explains... he ships cars that get to his lot to the Ukraine... he says he gets cars that have been in accidents from all over and he ships them oversees to Russia... where they fix them and sell them....

    Right about now the lights start going off in my head about this whole ordeal...

    ...to be continued...
  18. Twojump36

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    Alaska Car Transport seemed like a legitimate shipping company.
    Now looking back... I know better.

    In the beginning, Alaska Car Transport had very good communication. My contact was "Andrew Von Eschen"... a fast talking, medium pressure kind of guy... Claims his office is in New York. Also tried really hard for me to pay the additional insurance for 100% replacement (which I already bought through my own insurance agent locally) I naturally declined... is that a Russian name?

    After all my questions were answered and I'd checked out the process, I was turned over to a "Pamela Trastelis"... supposedly a freight specialist and senior manager, and from no on was my contact... also claims a New York office with yet another Russian name

    Pamela explains the change of plans and says my bike isn't shipping to KGM Motorcycle Transporters in Kent Washington, but rather to the 2823 West Valley hwy west, Sumner Washington... "their other facility"

    2823 West Valley hwy East is really the address and is the address of the junk yard. Pamela explains the company name is OLGA Transport... (no known website or phone number but gives me a number that ends up being Dmitriy's cell) is Dmitriy a Russian name?

    I didn't ask the 5-6 guys there what their nationalities were but i saw the Olympics and these guys look real familiar to the Russian team...

    I don't have proof yet, but what I believe is going on, is Alaska Car Transport is connected with this shipping company in Sumner Washington... possibly a family connection.

    I think Alaska Car Transport pushes the freight insurance to get 100% coverage of the freight (in this case my bike) once that happens, they loose the freight (in this case my bike)
    Then they wait to see what happens with the client. I think 95% of people might give up after 30 plus days and say just send me a check... the claim get's filed and the client gets the money... from the insurance company (or not)... the bike or "freight" gets shipped to Dmitriy where he ships it to the Ukraine with the help of the other 5 semi shirtless worker whom may or may not be Russian too...

    Apparently "totaled" vehicles don't have reconstructed titles in all other countries.... a Honda Accord, Toyota Camery, and other normal every day cars we have on the roads in the states go for big bucks over there... and there is a high demand.

    I think I might have got in the middle of a scam... I also think that if I hadn't done a bunch of investigation on who, where, and when my bike moved... and without the help of Classic Motion in Anchorage and some woman named Taylor from Carlile, I might have to have accepted a settlement check from an insurance company and some Russian or Ukrainian might be riding my bike over seas...

    I would hope I'm wrong and this was just a bad experience but too many things don't add up... but I don't think I'm that far off the truth.... which I fully intend to get to the bottom of.

    Proving this might be as tough as finding evidence that Russia influenced the US elections.... but why would they want my bike?
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    OMG! I've been watching this thread for a month or so. That is some crazy stuff you got into! Once your spidey senses started going off there was nothing you could have done that wouldn't have messed up the trip. I think you probably did the only thing you could have done at the time, and you had the foresight to get the extra insurance from your agent before the issue arose. That is the reason for the insurance. Be as thorough as you can and get insurance in case of the unforeseeable.

    No doubt you are correct about the scam. It's surprising that they were "kind" enough to "find" your motorcycle. Maybe they thought they were doing you a solid in case you didn't have insurance to cover it? Like the old days when the gangsters would only take the bank's money that was insured and leave the people's un-insured money/ property untouched?
  20. Twojump36

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    The key to the success was Classic Motion giving me the info of when they took it to the Carlile dock, and from there I knew where it went to and I could contact them and get that tracking number... from there I got the shipping manifest and the info on it.... it just so happened to be the very day the boat docked... so I was able to alert Alaska Car Transport to the fact that I knew exactly where my bike was.... after that it was a trap... anything they did from that point would implicate the junkyard people and jeopardize the scam they have going on with exposing them. Alaska Car Transport was on the outside looking in and had to do the right thing...

    Classic Motion in Anchorage is a quality shipper... they did a fantastic job crating my bike and getting it to the dock when they said they would... I believe they also can handle the complete shipping procedure and there is no need to use ACT in the future... for anyone....

    One funny bit of information I just learned... 3 years ago... one of my employees' sister had a car shipped from Anchorage to Tacoma.... she's never seen the car since then. I learned this by accident just today when the employee noticed my bike in front of my office....

    Anyone want to guess who the shipper was in this case???
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