All the oil came out the bottom drain plug!!

Discussion in 'Dakar champion (950/990)' started by TheLimeyID, Jul 9, 2019.

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  1. TheLimeyID

    TheLimeyID Off road n00b

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    Oh, good. I thought so, but then it seemed odd for the pressure gauge to attach there. I found an offical KTM adapter cheap on ebay, and got an nice little (1.5") gauge off amazon, and got a hose made up earlier this week (measured to the rear cam tensioner hole). I plan to mount the gauge on the left of the dashboard. ...I'll post pictures when I get to that. Once I get the engine back in I'll be rockin!! =)
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    TheLimeyID Off road n00b

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    I thought I had a picture of it, but I can't see it. Maybe, I just left it on there so I can take a picture. I'll check this morning.

    It's not a paste, more like "sticks", but more than 1 or 2. =O

    It shouldn't be from the bolt coming loose, as that only shredded the aluminium clutch case (of which I now have a picture)....

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    TheLimeyID Off road n00b

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    Ah, thank-you! I'll do that. =)

    ...so, what are they venting? ...excess pressure?
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    TheLimeyID Off road n00b

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    OK, I got some footage of my oil plugs: https://photos.app.goo.gl/o6niGYHAJhDy9wyw8

    Also, I was looking at the carb vacuum ports.

    Those are where I would connect my carb balancer ( 20190803_083957.jpg )? So, could I just seal the ones on the offside by replacing the ports with a couple of bolts? Then attach hoses to the remaining two, for easy access when checking balance?
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    They vent the vacuum slide diaphragms. Without the proper venting you will get all sorts of erratic behavior..
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    Don't try to take out the brass fittings. 50/50 chance you'll snap them off 100% of the time.

    I've found the rubber caps from the auto store just don't last. Probably happened to you. Instead, put a piece of hose back on and insert a bolt or screw to block it. Zip tie it tight or wire it to keep it from popping off if you get a back fire. Not pretty, but who's going to see it.

    And that's a yes. Run two hoses back to under the seat for balancing. Block the others. If two of the brass ports have very small holes, use those for your balancer. It makes the pulses a lot smoother.
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    nk14zp Long timer

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    I set my balance at 4k or a bit above.
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    uk_mouse Aquatic adventurer

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    To be pedantic, I think those hoses actually vent the float bowls. If you get pressure fluctuations in the bowl you get erratic fuel levels, leading to inconsistent mixture.
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    TheLimeyID Off road n00b

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    Thank-you! That is all very useful information!

    Is this connected to the "popping" on deceleration?
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    Touche
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    I have been experiencing this problem! (Dry sump) I measure the fresh oil going in after changing. Start engine, idle a few minutes, shut off. Check the level, and it needs topping off. I go for a ride, come home and check the level and it is over full. I thought I do something wrong. I just did not run enough to equalize levels in sump as well as tank . Thanks!
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    Great info here...thanks for that!
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    It certainly is!! :clap
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    I didn't get to it over the weekend (too much time on here Saturday morning :shog, then later back on Sunday than expected).

    Slow going tonight. I thought I'd start by removing the clutch and getting into the oil pumps, water pump, pressure release valve, etc. However my first hurdle was not having a 31mm socket (a trip to Napa fixed that), then I find I need a special tool to lock the clutch inner hub to the outer. Well, I don't have it so I made a better tool...

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    ...the nails align with the spaces in the inner and outer hubs, locking them together (for the record, I pre-drilled the holes for the nails, I'm not that good).

    Then it fits on like this...
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    However, it's either on there like a mother f****r, or I'm doing something wrong. I'm loath to just crank it down hard and break something, so though I'd check on here first.

    ...it undoes anti-clockwise? ...like a regular bolt! :hmmmmm

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    Yes, its on with locktight 243 and 110nm so a wee bit of ooomhp is required.
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    First time breaking that nut loose on the 950. After failing with cheapo impact tools I ended up locking rear wheel and had bike on its side, long pipe on the tool, had to lay next to bike and feet to stop it from pivoting.

    Like a gunshot when it came undone, thought tool snapped.

    Never any issues since.

    And a 32 mm socket have worked fine.

    Did borrow the odd 31 mm first time around.

    Good luck with engine on a bench

    Lately been wrenching with forest machines and all of a sudden motorcycles seem so easy.

    /Johan
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    When all you have is a hammer... :)

    As others have said, that nut has threadlock on it, so hit it with a blowtorch. Or trade in your hammer for an electric impact wrench, they really are rather useful! :D
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    TheLimeyID Off road n00b

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    Thanks everyone!

    This morning's project will be to strap the engine down to the table, get a length of pipe on the socket handle, and get that nut undone! :thumb
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    ...I keep seeing KTM's on the road round here now that I'm off it. ...I haven't managed to run any if them into the ditch so I can "borrow" their engines though. :lol3
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