Wow we must be the most eclectic group of people in the world. To me the tire is the LOUDEST tire I have ever run and that includes Metzler 880 on the LT! Yet here we are guys say they are fine and they hear nothing. I live in PA and we have all kinds of road surfaces, concrete, asphalt, some chip and seal, and potholes that will swallow your front wheel. They HOWLED no matter what once off center leaned even a tiny bit. I never had a complaint about it's grip or wear. I changed them out at 5700 miles as I could not take it any longer. I would love to have the same tire without the howl. Just a bad tire for this bike and me. The Scorpion Trail II is all that and a bag of chips with salsa too! As long as I can get 7-8K out of them I will be more then happy. Tires are cheap compared to a insurance deductible. These are the stickiest, quietest tire I have even run on any bike. And they heat up very quickly. A few blocks I see a 1 PSI change. I have never had a set of tires respond that quickly! I wish I knew why we have this sound perception difference between us all. I am a gray beard and yes I used to listen to albums spin at levels that would make your ears bleed. I do wear custom ear plugs and do have decent hearing so I truly am stumped on why we perceive these tire differently.