Alright I've seen the Odysseys and I'm not so convinced they're for me. Thinking bout getting the stockBMW system cases and then retro fitting the city lids for that tight Williamsburg Bridge commute. The Odyssesys are too low and would scrape the cage masses. The stocks are high enough to avoid the bulge of a car door, but with the city lids -- hold jack shiite! That leaves me looking into the Hepco Becker Journeys. They stick out beyond the exhaust, but look high enough, and hold much more than the stock. One thing I want to avoid about the Jesses, is that you'd have to unload everything in the case in order to get to what's on the bottom. ps love the Jesse rear compartment though, just installed it and it's so industrial / practical. SO - Hepco's ............................... Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?