I'm looking for someone with experience with this: And this: ====== Neither solution will be a slouch. Denali has a 5 year warranty. Can't find Clearwater's..assuming 1 year? Denali claims 8760 Raw Lumens w/ D4 and 2190 with the DM Is that combined or each? Clearwater is 6,000 each for Erica and 2,000 each for Darla Both companies appear to stand by their products Both work with Wonderwheel on the R1200 and integrated with CanBus But Denali's CanSmart system is a derivative of EZCAN which has a computer interface for programming versus Clearwater which seems to only program via the bike's handlebar controls. CanSmart is definitely superior to CanOpener in that regard. Both integrate with LED Brake lights, $95 from Denali and $129 from Clearwater Denali has the added integration with their horn that is plug & play with their system Amber Covers for all 4 lights are $60 from Denali and $70 from Clearwater Clearwater shipping to NH is $33.74 and Twisted Throttle (maker of Denali) is Free shipping Since the Denali 2.0 D4 / DM are so new (released Fall 2017), I'm finding very little reviews on them. There is a lot written out there on Clearwater but I want any reason (other than the cost savings) to go Denali over Clearwater so if you've personally owned or at least seen both in action or maybe installed both, what's your opinion? I will say that IF Denali's Lumen claims (note they add RAW not actual or real world numbers) are for both housings combined and not each, then clearwater is the clear winner as their setup (erica + Darla) would equal 16K lumens and Denli's D4 + DM would be only 10.95K... If Denali's Lumens claim are each, that means Denali's Lumen (raw, not actual) would be 21,900 far more than 16K from Clearwater. Thanks in advance. PS: If @twistedthrottle wants to answer some of these questions, I'd love to hear from them here. Not sure if they are positioned their 2.0 system as a direct competitor to Clearwater from a marketing standpoint but I see them as pretty close.