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Discussion in 'Regional Forums' started by Chopperman, May 20, 2002.
It's all about money. Don't let these morons try to convince you otherwise. They'll say it's all about safety and "they're doing it for the children" - but I know better. Our shit-head politicians are pissed that Tim Eyeman (sp?) spearheaded several WA state initiatives that reduced our taxes so, instead of cutting their pork projects, they're sticking it to the taxpayers.
More tickets = more revenue. Want more proof? Just try putting up any sort of building in King County. I have a friend who just put up a 12,000 SF metal roof over a horse arena - it's open on all four sides. It's just so you can ride even when the weather is bad - King County wanted to tax it as a 12,000 SF residence!!! Not agricultural. Not even commercial, but residential. The highest $/sf ratio. Bend over and grab your ankles - our elected scum will be rifling your wallet after the ream job.
So, be prepared. The state troopers (a.k.a. revenuers) will have their quotas jacked up and will be trying to reach into your wallets any way they can. They're doing it in the name of safety.
yet another reason I got the hell out of King King county.
Oh and the state Troopers here *love* it when you greet them with: "Thanks for the ticket. you fat sack of shit"
You shoulda said, "Thanks...SIR."
ps-JP and I will be all over WA this summer. I want to take her to see Mt. St. Helens. eastern WA, and the coastline. Any good suggestions, Chopperman?
Shit alla them are good riding. 'cept maybe the coast. RV-city.
the road from Randle Wa to the columbia river skirts St Helens. Nice ride. RV packed on the weekends and logging trucks run the joint on the weekdays. best way to do it is to camp close to the stretch you wanna ride and get up early to do breakfast on the other side. then everyone is going the other way.
Eastern wa is nice if you stick to the norther sections. the southern area (near I-90) is flat and boring. north in the Okanagans is nice.
the San Juan Islands is nice but take a lot of ferries.
the southern coast gets packed in the summer. But the olympic peninsula is a must do. even if most of it looks like a bad haircut. Some great hiking trails. Me and Missus had a weekend of drug induced monkeysex at one of the tribe cabin rental places in the off season. nice place Quinault If I do recall.
If you get tired of Wa then I would suggest canada. Vancouver Island and BC are lovely places to ride.
There are some really nice roads in SE Washington if you get away from the Interstate. The scenery may be monotonous for some, but I found the "thin grey lines" on the map often contained excellent twisties and very little traffic.
I have received two speeding tickets in WA (on a bike):
The more memorable experience was just north of Vancouver at 3am in the rain. I was alone on the highway, cruising in the fast lane (3 lanes), when I noticed a pair of headlights closing *very* quickly. I changed lanes. The car changed lanes and continued to close very quickly. I changed lanes again--in the right lane now. The car matched my lane change and continued to close very rapidly. By now I was starting to worry, and I was poised to roll on the throttle and fuck off. The car was right on my ass before the trooper hit the lights. I don't know if he was fucking with me or if he was just an idiot. He wrote me up for 70 in a 60.
Oh yeah we have some extra "speshul" cops out here. in Issaquah on the flats if you are running late at night they like to douse all lights (and I do mean all) run right up on your ass and then hit everything at once. in order to scare up DUI arrests. assholes.
Yakima is a bad place to speed into. I spent a couple hours on deserted 2 lane doing 120. then I hit Yakima and slowed waaay down...to 75. then the cop hassled me about insurance. I explained that it was not mandatory on a bike. But when I insisted on getting ticketed for it...he suddenly remembered it was true. If you hit Yakima do yourself a favor and grab Old River Road. I think it is hwy 806 or something. not the most challenging, but a pleasant ride away from the slab and I saw no cops. watch for river rafter traffic though.
I'll go ya one better. Y'know that big fire they had down on the docks. boats in flames. houseboats in danger of flames. Well the houseboat folks want another fireboat. Now what pays for fire services? property taxes. and what don't the houseboat folks pay? property taxes.
I still wnat a branch of government converted to the sole task of removing laws from the books.
Ooh reminds me. some years ago I was riding my BMW downtown and a bike messengercame up on my left at full chat and made a right down the street infront of me. I had to turn with him to avoid hitting him. not that I would have cared. But it prolly would have taken me out too. I adrenaline freaked. I chased this shitbag for a couple blocks and caught him. I had one hand wrapped in his hair and was draggin him off his bicycle. He was trying for his bike lock, which I was fully prepared to make him eat when an MC cop pulled up. Oh yay. which 2 wheeled menace 2 society gets the bracelets? I got pushed back and copper started tearing into the messenger. I got the hint and faded.
most cops are still in negative territory in my book, but he made up some ground that day.
I can't wait til my kid starts school. The PTA, NEA and I are gonna go a few rounds I am sure of it.
Is there a set ferry price for the San Jaun Islands area, or do they rate according to distance? What about the rest of the Puget Sound area, is it prohibtively expensive to ferry around to different riding spots?
Thanks again to timbo, the prices keep going up on the ferries. Dunno about the San Juan runs. But most of the others are just a matter of convenience. Just go the loong way around and spend the dough on gas and enjoying the secenery. And the ferries charge one way (AFAIK). from seattle side to peninsula. so you ride around to the peninsula. then come back via ferry. no cost and bikes get preferential loading. (i.e. you skip the line and go first) but I only get on the boats one or 2 times a year. Mike G may know more living in ferrytropolis.
Yep - I am still pissed at myself for accidentally deleting some good photos of WA state bike cops riding side by side in pouring rain at about 80 MPH in traffic. I have seen a group of about a dozen biker cops do that all together on their way into Seattle to give a presidential candidate an escort. One of these days some soccer mom is going to cause them all to go down in a big smashup.
Anyway, just like any other state, if you stay off the main money producing routes, such as I-5 and I-90, you will avoid most of the traffic cops. There are still speed traps here and there, but staying off the super-slab avoids most of them.
I will say that the CA cop I got a ticket from (for passing over a double yellow) was a lot nicer than most WA cops I have dealt with; no lecture, no asking me if I had drugs or firearms, no asking me where I was going or where I worked, no lecture - just wrote me a ticket and sent me on my way.
Always remember your right to shut your yap.
"Do you know why I stopped you?"
"because I am a 2 wheeled menace to society?"
"do you know how fast you were going?
"I'm sorry sir, but I cannot answer that"
"With all due respect, without benefit of legal counsel I cannot answer that question."
Is this a Upcoming Event or a Jo Momma thread???
getting close to a move :lol1
Make it both. Come on by and we'll "Jo Momma" the cops.
Difficult question. How about Asking Baldy / Blaming Fish?
Good point!! white meat.
so much for today's house cleaning :lol1
Always wanted what RAH called a "congressional tyranny" in which the government is restrained from doing just about anything and "the peepul" have just about no voice.
Impossible of course. But a dream.