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Apples & Oranges? Uly vs F800GS

Discussion in 'Parallel Universe' started by Impulse 101, Sep 2, 2008.

  1. cycletlh

    cycletlh Slower than yesterday!

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    Do not know about the BMW either.

    16,500 miles on my 07 Uly in one year and one month. (7 months of ride time) Ride 90/10 as advertising suggests.

    Likes: Riding position, performance, handling, versatility, comfort (o6 seat modified), carrying capacity (the mack truck of motorcycles), drive belt, fuel economy (average 50 mpg, worse 47, best 60, equals or betters my wife's wee strom, light comes on @ 180).

    Dislikes: Wind noise! What can I say, I am a pencil necked geek. I ride with a neck sock and ear plugs and it still sounds like my head is in a jet engine. Problem is I have not taken time out from riding to figure out a solution. (Have read alllllllll the posts regarding this) Not a dislike, but it is tall and is top heavy when loaded with tank bag, rear seat bag, side bags, and full beer cooler on the rear tail. (note, all the ice water runs out of the beer cooler when it flips upside down)

    Failures: Oil Cooler leak @ 8,000, Rear Wheel bearings @ 14,000, 1 flat rear (plugged and aired faster than the wife could go pee)

    When I figure out a fix for the wind noise I will be able to ride in excess of 500 miles per day.

    Not trying to sell you a bike, just giving you my experiences. In my opinion for this bike to fall into the "advertised" touring catagory it needs better wind protection as an "option" from the factory.

    Hope this helps all who are considering.
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  2. Nemesis

    Nemesis just ride the damn thing

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    The service interval on all BMWs is 6000 miles. The Uly beats that? :huh
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  3. Hughlysses

    Hughlysses Long timer

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    The Uly rear wheel bearings are fairly easy to replace and are standard off-the-shelf industrial units (at least on 06-08 bikes). Some folks have gotten ~30-50k out of their bearings with no problems; others have gone through 2 sets in 15k or less. A lot of ideas were tossed around here and on Badweb, such as clumsy mechanics over-torquing the rear axle, low quality Chinese bearings, etc. Several of us replaced the factory NTN bearings with Toyo or SKF units. I know of at least one Toyo guy that had his new bearings fail in a few thousand miles, so that seems to rule out the OEM bearings or over-torquing as culprits. So far, I haven't read of an SKF failure.

    Word at Buell Homecoming in July was that Buell had investigated the wheel bearing problems, determined the seals weren't adequate, leading to moisture getting into some bearings. A new, improved wheel bearing was supposed to be released by August. So far, there's been no confirmation of this.
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  4. Hughlysses

    Hughlysses Long timer

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    The recommended oil change interval for the Uly is 5000 miles; primary lube is 10000 IIRC. Of course, no valve adjustments, throttle body syncs or TPS resets are required.
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  5. Skyclad

    Skyclad Original Bastard

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    I am one of the folks that had the bearing issues. Replaced twice in the first 7000 miles. Second time I replaced the with the SFK bearings and have not had any problems with them since. I am at 11630 miles now.

    I have had only two other problems. I ripped the belt at 11220 miles (warranties) and the exhaust valve seized. The shop did replace the exhaust valve actuator servo, but the check engine light has been coming on again. I am thinking the valve itself is getting gunked up and sticking. Should be able to fix it with a good cleaning.

    I have not done many mods, but two that I highly recommend are changing the primary ratio to the XB9 and getting better tires. The lowering gearing (~11% lower) makes the bike better everywhere except really high speed highway. For tires, I am currently using Avon Distanzias. The rear is not the "correct" size, but the 160 width mounted easily and has caused absolutely no handling issues. I have about 4000 miles on the rear and will be replacing it soon. The front is good for another rear.

    I have alos heard good things about the Pirelli MT-60R's. Although I have no official confirmation, I have heard Pirelli changed the rubber compound in the MT-60R to that of the Scorpion Synchs, so tire life should be much better than with the supermoto compound they did have. BTW, the Distanzias are listed as using a SM compound.

    I use my bike at the far reaches of what Buell intended for the Ulysses. It is rather large and heavy for a dirt bike, but with my size (6'3", 320 lbs) and strength, that is not too much of an issue for me. If I had to get a new bike today, knowing what I know about the Ulysses and other rides, I would still get another Uly. Fabulous handling, comfortable on long rides and good versitility; what's not to love?
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  6. slide

    slide A nation with a future

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    Well, you have an advantage over many in that you have that great Buell dealership near you. I spoke to another guy yesterday who said he didn't buy the Uly because of a sense he had that the dealership he visited hated the bikes and despised the owners. If you ain't riding Harley you ain't....

    I think it has to be a test ride and a test look. You seem to like the Buell look which is truly unique. If that stirs you, then you need to go with it.

    I personally have a great like for the BMW marque. I dunno why but I always shop BMW first. Like you and Buell, it works for me. So my commuter / daily rider is a BMW G-X. Best for the job? I dunno, but it's best for me.
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  7. Skyclad

    Skyclad Original Bastard

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    And that is what it all comes down to.
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  8. dan g

    dan g bland rider

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    Ive riden the ully, the bwm, and owned the bmw 1150 and a bunch of ktms. The ully felt really glued to the road I like that. It has some great cornering its center of gravity is in a diffrent location that the bmw or ktm. I found the greatest stong point to be lean angle(fun in twists). The engine responce was very similar to the gs, but far more uncivilized but unfotunatly less felt power, It felt restricted (but you can uncork the ully for full poterntial) I would probably get a diffrent windscreen to. The Ully seemed eminitly modifiable.

    The bmw is only a little lighter, but feels much lighter than the ully. The higher feeling center of gravity creates some more wind tublence. Odly enough the bmw is equaly fun in the turns. The bmw has some of bmws standard failings though, the power delivery is so slick it almost robs some of the fun out of the experiance, but the chain saves it. On the street it is a blast the front wasnt a problem. One big bmw draback is no modificatians alowed, you can get a aftermarket pipe but really what you have is it.

    Alright im biased from my other rides though.

    I've got a ktm640 very similar height and tire size to the 800gs
    Ktm 950adv very responsive ride
    Bmw 1150gs great highway machine

    personally im probebly going to get a 800gs sometime next year, its hard to expain untill you ride them both. The beemer just feels like its had years more enginering put into it, in fact somtimes its so slick it sucks(hard to expain this phenominon).

    PS The most uncivilized fun ive ever had on the street is still the ktm 950 adv, but it has had its issues.... (not even getting into it), they might have been fixed by now on th 990, or not.
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  9. RedUly

    RedUly Esse Quam Videri Supporter

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    I think the truth of that statement depends on the mechanical abilities of the owner. Certainly if you're taking your Uly to the dealer for oil changes, it's going to be an expensive bike to own. If you're mechanically inclined, and can do all the service work yourself, both bikes are probably cheap.

    I have heard that Buells are easy to work on. I've no personal experience with BMWs, so I can't personally attest that they are more difficult to service than Buells. Assuming they are, there will be people who could service a Buell but require a dealer to service a BMW. For these people, the Buell is cheaper. If you can personally service either bike or neither bike it's not so clear.

    Again, I can't talk about the BMW, as I've no personal experience. Here is the maitenence schedule for a 2009 Ulysses.

    Regular Service Intervals: 2009 XB Models​
    <table style="border: thin solid black;" width="100%" align="center" border="1"> <colgroup> <col align="left"> <col align="left"> <col align="center"> <col align="center"> <col align="center"> <col align="center"> <col align="center"> <col align="center"> <col align="center"> </colgroup> <thead valign="bottom"> <tr valign="top"> <th rowspan="1" colspan="1"> ITEM SERVICED
    </th> <th rowspan="1" colspan="1"> PROCEDURE
    </th> <th rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1000 MI.
    1600 KM
    </th> <th rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 5000 MI.
    8000 KM
    </th> <th rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 10,000 MI.
    16,000 KM
    </th> <th rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 15,000 MI.
    24,000 KM
    </th> <th rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 20,000 MI.
    32,000 KM
    </th> <th rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 25,000 MI.
    40,000 KM
    </th> <th rowspan="1" colspan="1"> NOTES
    </th> </tr> </thead> <tbody valign="top"> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Engine oil and filter
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Replace
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="2" colspan="1"> Air cleaner
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Inspect, service as required
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Replace filter element
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Tires
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Check condition and tread
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Transmission lubricant
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Replace
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1" align="center">
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Clutch
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Check adjustment
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Primary chain
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Check adjustment
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Rear belt and idler sprockets
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Inspect
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Throttle, brake, clutch controls, sidestand, active muffler cable and active intake cable adj (if equipped)
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Check, adjust, lubricate
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Brake fluid
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Check levels and condition
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 2
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Brake pads and discs
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Inspect for wear
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Spark plugs
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Replace
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Electrical switches and equipment
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Check operation
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Front fork oil
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Replace
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Steering head bearings
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Perform resistance test
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Oil cooler fins
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Clean
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Brake system, oil lines, front forks, rear shock, exhaust system, exhaust system mounting, evaporative emission system (if applicable)
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Inspect
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Critical fasteners
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Check tightness
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Engine mounts, stablizer, and links
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Inspect
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> 1
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Road test
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> Verify component and system functions
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1"> X
    </td> <td rowspan="1" colspan="1">
    </td> </tr> <tr valign="top"> <td rowspan="5" colspan="1"> NOTES:
    </td> <td rowspan="5" colspan="8"> 1. Should be performed by an authorized Buell dealer, unless you have the proper tools, service data and are mechanically qualified.
    2. Change brake fluid every two (2) years.
    </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
    From a quick glance down the 5k mile list, it appears that one would require a T-27 Torx driver, a 1/2 and a 9/16 wrench to preform these procedures.

    The 10k list is a little harder because the fork oil is supposed to be changed. That is one of those things beyond my ability, so I currently take the bike to the dealer when that needs to be done.
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  10. JamesG

    JamesG Rabid Poster

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    Even if you can, what is your time worth for the extra maintenance chores required?
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  11. PSO

    PSO Been here awhile

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    My fiance had a f650GS, one of the true one lunger 650's by rotax. It was a b*** to work on, but dependable. That is my only complaint about that bike. I like the simplicity of working on the Buell's I hope they get the electrical gremlins, voltage regulator which went out on mine, fixed along with the rear wheel bearings. I carry a spare VR, clutch cable and belt for trips just to be safe and when I get the rear tire changed will also swap out the bearings and also perhaps get one of the new and improved drive belts.
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  12. ArmyMedic

    ArmyMedic Flyin' Elvis, UT Chapter

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    Yes, the 1000 engine on the Strom rocks and is so frickin' dependable, I wonder if I'm making a mistake even looking at another bike (Uly). But the bike itself isn't inspiring to be sure.
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  13. XRE650L

    XRE650L n00b

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    Well, I say buy the ULY. I too spent loads of time researching both the BMW(GS12Adv, GS800) and the Buell. And just the rideability and ease of maint. did it for me. Not to mention the Sh!t eat'n grins Buell's produce. As for tours up here, I have seen H-D softtails, Kawasaki tour bikes, Yamaha's(all kinds) on the Dalton Hwy. I've rode my XR650L (sold for a Ulysses)up to Arctic Cricle(saw again all sorts), and plan on a Deadhorse/Prudhoe Bay trip in summer'09, as well as McCarthy, Dawson and many many more(on the Uly). This weekend i'll be taking the Uly up and over Hatcher's Pass(not a big pass, but a good place to see what she has) I'll post the aftermath of that one. I'd say (money aside) ride both and then make the call. Oh check out youtube for some ULY's on single tracks, impressive to say the least.
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  14. Skvarki

    Skvarki Scharf

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    Everything's been said pretty much but I would investigate your dealers too. I've found that the dealer/service experience has had a voice in which bikes I've wanted to keep. At some point you have to go there and leaving feeling like you've been ripped off or screwed over isn't going to help you enjoy your new bike and may influence your opinion on the brand.

    I broke a clutch lever on a 650GS BMW and had to wait 2 months until a new one came from "munich" which still irritates me. My dealer had an elitist BMW attitude that to this day put me off the brand, whereas I find my local Harley/Buell dealer kind and they give an impression of caring when I need them with the added bonus that my money supports American industry.
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  15. Stobie

    Stobie Mr. Motivated Supporter

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    I have a KTM 950SE, not a low-maintenance bike at all. My closest servicing dealer is about 1 hour away. I can service my bike in less time than it would take to drop the bike off, then go back and get it, and I do not get in a hurry when I'm working on my bike.

    If your dealer is close by, and gives loaners, then using them for service can save time.

    If/when I get a Uly, I'll still service it myself, even though the closest dealer is 15-20 minutes away; but mostly because I'm a tightwad.:D
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  16. Hughlysses

    Hughlysses Long timer

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    Not paying ~$200 for something that you can do yourself for ~$30 does not quite elevate you to tightwad status... :D
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  17. Red_Chili

    Red_Chili Fresh Ground

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    How about not paying MUCH more for a fix you can do for $5 and three leisurely hours last night? Do I get elevated? Well do I?
    :deal:oscar

    The Uly's simplicity is half the reason I love the bike. I can tune this think just like I used to my carb'd bikes, and that rocks. Only I have MORE control. (this is not yet true of the '08+ unfortunately.) I can do almost all major service myself. The design is an exercise in simplicity. Almost all the bugs can be fixed for ultra cheap and reasonably permanently (including the rear bearings and periodic intake seal failure).

    The other half is the sheer fun of riding it. Never had a bike like that. Ride it up the canyon, ride it commuting, ride it across the state, it is uber comfy and a top handling machine. It is not perfect and it is not a dirtbike (I have an XR650R for that) but it is the most flexible practical girl I have owned and I still lust after it. :D

    TM, I don't often disagree with you, but I do believe it is an adventure bike. Depends on your definition of 'adventure'. The known sources of possible breakdown are fairly few and fairly easily covered by carrying spares. OK, the fuel capacity is a bit limited.

    All that said, if you want more dirtability and can tolerate the dealer (or have a good one), buy the Bimmer if it speaks to you. Buying both creates a LOT of overlap; that is why I have a very dirtable dualsport and a very streetable beast with dirt road ability. I have even been known to successfully navigate the odd 4x4 road.
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  18. 2Evil4U

    2Evil4U Been here awhile

    Joined:
    Mar 29, 2007
    Oddometer:
    996
    Location:
    Slaughter, LA
    Lots of great commentary from the dispersive. The only thing I'll add is NEVER change the fork oil. In my experience, when I had the dealer do it at 21,000 miles, it let all the mojo out of the bike. The poor thing hasn't been right since. Fork oil changed in February 2008, made it to 32,500 miles by June 1st. Is now at only 33,400 miles because it's been in the shop all but five days since. :cry

    I put over 1000 miles on my wife's Blast this summer waiting to pick up my GSA. Hopefully, if Ike doesn't drown us or send us all to Oz, I can pick the Uly up next week.:clap
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  19. wbrisett

    wbrisett hmmm....

    Joined:
    May 15, 2007
    Oddometer:
    325
    Location:
    Austin
    The only thing I have to add to this, is make sure you fit the bike. The Uly while not necessarily a tall bike, seems to be so because of the width of the seat. There are several options, so make sure you also investigate that.

    Wayne
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  20. Impulse 101

    Impulse 101 Crazy Guitarist

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2008
    Oddometer:
    174
    Location:
    Milwaukee, WI
    I actually fit the Uly nicely. My 250 pound girth compresses it a bit.:rofl

    JT
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