Are you a motorcyclist or a biker?

Discussion in 'The Perfect Line and Other Riding Myths' started by levain, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades... Super Supporter

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    Apparently some motorcyclists love to prejudge too?


    I guess another reason to want to be a "motorbiker". Seems I don't want to be associated exclusively with either end fringe of the given choices, motorcyclist or biker.

    I think that is my new thing - being a motorbiker.
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    liberpolly Lazy rider

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    A motorcyclist is a biker than owns more than one motorcycle. If it's more than ten, it's a collector.
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    GreyThumper Long timer

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    It's weird how old threads get bumped sometimes.

    Anyway, I don't think of myself as either a biker or a motorcyclist. I ride motorbikes, that's it. It's a bit odd to define yourself by your hobbies. Like if someone says they play baseball, that's fine, but if someone says they're a baseball player, it's kinda weird, isn't it? Or a bit childish, like if you call yourself a gamer or a skater, you've decided that that is your identity.

    There are some negative qualities I associate with the term biker, but I don't really feel strongly against the word either. I've been called a biker by friends or people at work, but they just think "biker" is the term to use, and I don't mind. I don't recall any riding friends ever using the term biker or motorcyclist to refer to me or anyone else. He "rides" or "rides bikes" is the usual phrase.

    Note: I'm not American, so maybe we just use English differently.
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    markk53 jack of all trades... Super Supporter

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    markk53 jack of all trades... Super Supporter

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    You wanna be a motorbiker too? That's my new thing. Motorbiker - bit of each.
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    I think it all depends on the "ol lady" if she's sporten a black miniskirt and knee boots= biker,,,a klim jacket=a motorcyclist
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    I used to get this question during BRC class. I always responded with:
    A biker gets caught in the rain.
    A motorcyclist leaves in the rain...
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  8. markk53

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    Again, more reinforcement for being a motorbiker... :D
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    some of us forgot where we parked LOL
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    I was thinking "All the Touratech, All the Time"

    It looks like Cave Creek being a biker spot isn't exactly new? Sonny Barger, a bigshot Hells Angel that started the massive Oakland Charter and led it for a long time, moved to Cave Creek in the 90s and patched over another long time MC to start a H.A. charter out there. Definitely would put a spotlight on that area for both the wannabes and the real deal biker crowd. I thought this article was a good read on the AZ outlaw biker scene: https://www.phoenixmag.com/2018/02/21/open-road/ but this kinda stuff interests me even though I don't romanticize the whole outlaw biker thing. I've never found much use for rules or "brotherhood" or any of the other nonsense they're into, I just like motorcycles.

    And if you're interested in doing a build, I suspect the near future would be a good time. Lots of weekend warriors are probably going to be tight on cash and looking to liquidate their bikes that they barely ride. Just don't become one of the idiots that think their Harley is somehow superior to what are clearly better performing bikes... I love my Harley, but I can't stand those people. My 1090 is clearly a much better bike that costs less new, and even on knobbies it will outperform my upgraded Dyna.
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    SFC_Ren Been here awhile

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    Motorcyclist. Nobody has ever called me a biker or (most likely) ever thought of me as a "biker" and I would be insulted if they did. The only "leathers" I've ever worn caused me to look more like a power ranger than a pirate (Arrr matey). I have been referred to as a "rider" more often than not by non motorcyclists eg. (co-workers, friends, family)
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    You sure you don't want to be one of us motorbikers? No identity what so ever other than that printed name.
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    fonztheyeti king of all i survey

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    what if riding is the lifestyle? motorbiker?
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    Motorbiker just doesn't even sound like a real word. I own and ride two motorcycles! I would never call a motorcycle a bike. I own a bike as well, it has pedals, front and rear suspension, and even disk brakes but when I ride it I don't want to be called a "biker" either, cyclist would be more fitting. If I say i'm going for a bike ride, that means I'm getting the bicycle out of garage and going for a workout somewhere. If you call your motorcycle a bike, you probably have fringe on your jacket or wear a vest and dress like a pirate.
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    markk53 jack of all trades... Super Supporter

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    I know it doesn't even sound like a real word - it probably isn't. That's kind of the plan - I'm not associating with either motorcyclists or bikers, but rather both combined. Take the best of both worlds and have a sense of humor about it. Oddly enough, based on your last statement, I mix the terms bike and motorcycle pretty much at random. I also ride a bicycle and call it a bike too. So I sow a little confusion... not a big deal.

    Fact is the term bicycle indicates two wheels, says nothing about a motor or pedals. So really a nondescript term beyond the single track two wheel layout. I'd guess back in the early days the bicycle, which didn't have pedals originally, got pedals. Then some got engines - still had the pedals, a motorized bicycle, term shorted to motorcycle. Eventually pedals disappeared - still on mopeds, a short term for a motorized pedal bicycle maybe?

    Then there is the fact that I ride both motorized bicycles and pedal bicycles...

    So you see motorbiker... :scratch who cares! :lol2
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    fonztheyeti king of all i survey

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    Actually I call it a ducati or a gs depending on which one I'm referring to if I'm talking about mine. If I'm speaking of motorbikes in general I usually say "motorbike". I'm pretty sure that word is as real as anything else.

    no fringe, no pirate costume, but if you're prone to such sweeping speculation you're probably pretty closed minded ;)
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    shinyribs Thumpers for life

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    I ride/own/owned/build dirt bikes, sport bikes, cafe's, vintage UJM's, dual sports and choppers.

    I love bikes and I love riding them.

    IDGAF what somebody in the parking lot calls me, as long my my bikes run good.
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    fonztheyeti king of all i survey

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    That's it right there!
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    liberpolly Lazy rider

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    So... a rider?
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  20. markk53

    markk53 jack of all trades... Super Supporter

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    With the current weather conditions here and a funky knee still coming around, not as much as I'd like, but school online ends tomorrow and going out Saturday on the one with an engine, pulling the one off the hooks with pedals, and plan to ride both a fair amount this summer. We had freezing temperatures with highs in the 40s a week or so ago, record lows.

    Not as much rider as I want to be.