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Discussion in 'Australia' started by BygDaddee, Apr 27, 2019.
What’s the crash history and cause?
Big navigation error at night over high terrain on a flight from Mount Gambier to East Sale from memory in 1945 in an RAAF Beaufort bomber.
How did planes navigate at night with no electronics or Gps?
You'll know you're in the right gully coming down from the top if you strike these three bits of wreckage at the top of the debris field in this order
Ded (deduced) reckoning but they did have some electronics.
Ground controllers were trying to assist them too.
The Allies had early radar by 1945.
Stars & Compass, they did have some radio aids back in those days. they had NDB (Non directional beacons) where the navigator / radio operator could pick up a radio signal and get its direction changes as they flew along a track.
Thay used a sextant just like in the old sailing ships to navigate off the stars & work out their position and allow for winds. My FIL was a copilot on DC-3's flying up from Brisbane through PNG to the Phillipines on a regular courier run supporting MacArthur.
These are the first couple of bits coming up from the bottom track
The crew were actually on an astro navigation exercise. They flew over Albury before being given headings from East Sale but descended in cloud. The fact that they hit the eastern side of the spur suggests they were really confused about where they were because they would have hit the spur from the west heading direct from Albury to East Sale.
Reports suggest that the crew circled Albury for a while (probably because all the lights made it easily visible at night) and that the main navigation error had been a 20 degree initial error from Mount Gambier on the return flight to East Sale.
Perhaps the wrong star/constellation had been used in the astro navigation excercise.
The rock outcrops above the debris field were said to be the point of impact.
Dad attended Radar school Rathmines late 1940. Was taken out of active service late 1944 and commenced training Yanks and fitting units to Liberators and PT Boats until the duration.
Every country had Radar but they didn't have the Micro-Wave. The English kept that a secret but shared with Australia from the get-go.
Radar played a huge role for the RAAF / USAF in the Battle of the Bismarck Sea, 2nd 3rd and 4th March 1943.
The English weren't interested in sharing Radar with the Yanks until well after 7th Dec 1941.
CRASH OF A BREWSTER BUFFALO
ON MOUNT STANLEY IN VICTORIA
ON 1 JULY 1942
Any info where it crashed ?
On the west side i was told Paul. Bout all i can give you atm. Steep granite dropoffs. Ill sniff around and see what i can find.
Descending in cloud over unfamiliar terrain.....caught out many pilots, alas...
Story on the paper this morning about a DC3 crash near Nundle in 1948,13 died!
Fat Bastard on Stanley on Saturday
Tried to see this when my sinus still allowed me to get below 5mt's, only about 10 klms from home ..... Not sure even a GS could make it there though
Fuck me, nearly got the 3 of them
Still bits to be seen!!