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Baja Adventure Riders

Discussion in 'West – California, the desert southwest and whatev' started by bigtodd, Oct 11, 2013.

  1. WileyRTW

    WileyRTW Wiley

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    I drove my van for 2 years from the US to Colombia, and have also ridden motos around Mexico, Colombia and Ecuador, it happens much less often than it sounds like it does, but it will happen with regularity depending on where you go.

    If they do go fishing for a bribe, its usually with some good humor, so while I don't condone it, my personal experiences never had any abuse of powers. I had a very small number try and use intimidation, but I never felt like I would be thrown in jail or worse. I always did what I could to outlast their game so they would give up and look for an easier target.

    .....my record would be perfect if it weren't for that time in Vietnam.
  2. Dan Diego

    Dan Diego Long timer

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    It still happens, but you’ve gotta be careful of who, where and how you do it these days.

    The military—and possibly the feds—don’t take kindly to it. They may take immediate action that you wouldn’t like. The young military guys at the checkpoints asking for soda or meds or snacks are OK; that’s just the norm.

    The locals and transitos are usually fair game.

    Wherever or however it occurs, let them initiate it...then haggle if it’s too high.

    If no one has yet said it, here goes: “Is there a way we can just handle this right here so I don’t have to follow you to the station?”

    Note: I don’t condone this activity. But decades of traveling in Mexico, Central and South America has just deadened me to it...
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  3. bajasam

    bajasam Been here awhile

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    It's been part of their culture forever and will always be as long as their a two class society. It isn't just the police and military, its hotel desk clerks,marina service,anyone you need something from. Just like a tip, a couple of American dollars will get you a little more or extra whatever.I've never in fifty odd years had anybody be insulted or a gov'mt worker react negatively to morbida "a little bite".
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  4. Hill Climber

    Hill Climber Long timer

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    Something to consider.....
    The Baja 1000 is scheduled for Nov 20 (Ensenada - Ensenada loop race), if it's allowed to take place.
    Expect pre-runners and chase crews up to 2 weeks prior to race day, meaning hotel rooms might be scarce as far down as Catavina until the 21st or 22nd.
    The race was originally slated for an Ensenada - La Paz run but I see it's been changed to a loop race. https://score-international.com/raceinfo/2020-score-race-schedule/
    You don't want to be on the highway on race day between Ensenada and just south of Catavina, also Mex-3 and Mex-5 (on to Mex-1)
  5. b4thenite

    b4thenite Long timer

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    Please share your first hand experience. When and where did you give bribe?
  6. Dan Diego

    Dan Diego Long timer

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    At the checkpoints many times. Sometimes a bottle of liquor, brought for that occasion, sometimes cash. This is how you get out of unloading and reloading your entire vehicle.

    Cash and food to security guards at assorted gates I’m riding through. I felt these were fair. I have a great video of the negotiations for one particular property in Baja.

    Cash to transitos for “speeding” tickets. That was in Ensenada once and just leaving TJ for the toll road once.

    Lots of cash once to locals after a friend crashed his bike and damaged the asphalt south of San Vicente. No kidding. (That one was pretty costly, actually.)

    A pair of binoculars, some other stuff I haggled for and cash from locals. I was handcuffed in the back of a police car at the time so wasn’t in the best bargaining position. That worked out OK.

    All of our combined cash to locals in TJ after being caught drunk and stupid at 3am. They had all of our IDs in their shirt pockets and literally shook us down until they had every dollar. Crossed back into the US penniless that time.

    Those are the ones I recall offhand. And I don’t count the stuff like cold sodas and candy that I give to the young soldiers at the checkpoints to make things go easier.
  7. Beaumont Paco

    Beaumont Paco Been here awhile

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    One year ago some were on the Compadre trail before the rain came down hard on us With Bigtod and Sorrillo and don't remember the other guys names, let's do it again Tom.

    Attached Files:

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  8. bigtodd

    bigtodd Hi, wanna ride?

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    Hey Paco, we were just talking about you last night. The guy with us that crashed badly on day 1 had a little get together recognizing 1 year since his get off. His humorous bone was shattered in several pieces, collar bone broken in 3 places, 6 broken ribs and punctured lung. After 3 surgeries and lots of rehab, he's almost back.

    Let's ride :ricky
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  9. Todd157k

    Todd157k Long timer Supporter

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    Gosh.. that sounds like a fun ride. Where do I sign up? :imaposer
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  10. GalacticGS

    GalacticGS Motorcyclist Supporter

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    Me, Me, pick me, pick me...
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  11. tbarstow

    tbarstow Two-wheelin' Fool Super Supporter

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    Not until you can do it without crashing
  12. bigtodd

    bigtodd Hi, wanna ride?

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    “Where are we?” ... hehehe

    [​IMG]
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  13. GalacticGS

    GalacticGS Motorcyclist Supporter

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    I still don't remember anything about that crash! I definitely remember the 3 months sleeping in a recliner because I couldn't sleep flat on my back with the 5 broken ribs. Broken bones be damned - I'm ready to do it again...
  14. Beaumont Paco

    Beaumont Paco Been here awhile

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    Glad the recovery is comming along fine, Tom and I went on our merry way to Erendira Coyote Cals, the gate in ojos was closed had to slab it to Ensenada to Santo Tomas, our return on Sunday was great, what I thought was going to be supper hot turned out very pleasant even the storms that hit us from valle trinidad to before el compadre ranch was not too bad. Another highlite for me prior to that I never have been on coastal dirt from Santo Tomas. awesome enjoyed that very much.
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  15. tbarstow

    tbarstow Two-wheelin' Fool Super Supporter

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    That's how I feel now! (Sits back down in recliner as broken ribs tell me who's in charge.)
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  16. EZ300

    EZ300 Just wanna ride my motorsickle

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    So no issues or hassles at the border crossings due to the COVID hysteria?
  17. El Zorrillo

    El Zorrillo charity case

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    That was a year ago, EZ
  18. NSFW

    NSFW basecamp4adv Super Supporter

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    thanks for the heads up. good info for everyone planning to head down.

    rode alone to the tip a few years ago and thought of doing it again, but due to the uncertainty of the official border opening, decided to go elsewhere. i spectated on many baja 1k and other races; and work 3x as a support crew for GalacticGS while racing on NORRA sponsored events. even with that, i still seek advice from other people. baja is not a forgiving land.

    most memorable moment is when a baja rider pulled up next to my truck and asked for gas. gave him whatever he needed and then he took off after he gave me mexican pesos. he finished 2nd on the bike category and that got Honda's attention. later i found out his name is Ivan Ramirez.
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  19. EZ300

    EZ300 Just wanna ride my motorsickle

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    Oh,... Okay :thumb

    Anybody been across lately?
    Dirtbiking in Baja is an essential activity afterall!
  20. Beaumont Paco

    Beaumont Paco Been here awhile

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    When I go accros Us to Mex. walking It seemed buisnes as usual, in my case I cross as a Mexican citizen and coming back as US citizen and I see US or tourists on a different line and evetualy all get to cross.