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Barrancas Del Cobre--BigDog/The Breeze

Discussion in 'Ride Reports - Epic Rides' started by BigDogAdventures, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. BigDogAdventures

    BigDogAdventures Fart Letter Supporter

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    I've been dreaming since last year of riding some routes around the canyons of the Mexican states of Chihauhau, Sinaloa and Sinora that I've been so very close to--but took other options--mainly because me and my riding partners weren't sure these routes and roads even existed.

    Google earth was my map for some of this ride---some roads were not known to me or Mexican maps------oh I wasn't the first mind you, not by a long shot--but these routes sounded interesting.

    I made a call to my friend Tim Rhoads who lives in Missouri and ask him if he'd join me---for reasons I'll explain more later----his face got all scrunched up and this skeptical kinda scared look came over his face.... as his head nodded no---but out of his mouth came.

    Hell Yes !!!!!

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    Me and Tim burned the midnight oil many nights preparing our bikes.
    New tires, chains, sprockets---cleaned the air filters and changed the oil.
    We adjusted the valves and completely tore apart our suspensions and swingarms
    for a good greasing. New tires also--I no longer wanted to fiddle with finding or
    shipping tires to Mexico as in the past. I wanted tires to last 3,000 miles of offroad
    dirt and still be aggressive-----A Bridgestone ED77 up front and Rally Raid for the
    rear did the job---and did it well !!!! A big thanks to "Dockingpilot" for turning me onto the Rally Raid tires. It is a huge tire and won't fit on a lot of bikes----and Dockingpilot uses them on his 950. My new and somewhat untested 5 gallon tank
    that I had worked so hard to help get it made with Halls
    Husqvarna of Springfield, Illinois would be put to the test
    on this ride.
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    I picked up Tim in Rolla Missouri in snow and ice.
    It was treacherous getting to his house, and we fought ice on the road
    till we got far South.
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    We arrived safely, driving straight thru to Presidio, Texas where we would leave the
    tow vehicle and stay at the 3 Palms motel for the night--after doing border town paperwork.
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    It was so nice and warm here--we had all day to get things done as we arrived in the early morning
    and were prepared for a daybreak departure the next day.
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    After getting there---we discovered a stowaway !!!! Looks very suspicious.
    Could it be ???---a tarp---feet as big as an anvil---kinda smelly ???
    Naw couldn't be--Could it ????
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    "El (long pause) Perro Grande"
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  2. gaspipe

    gaspipe Wandering Soul

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  3. GB

    GB . Administrator Super Moderator Super Supporter

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    On ya!! BigDog rides again :thumb

    I'm still enjoying your Baja DVD.

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  4. BigDogAdventures

    BigDogAdventures Fart Letter Supporter

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    Buenos Noches Mr. Stovepipe------grab a chair and a beer to wash down that popcorn---I'll try not to scare ya !!!

    Me and Bruce laughed on the phone as I was telling him that the Mexican border guys weren't going to let me in Mexico because he saw my old visa (which I was suppose to turn in on the last visit) and didn't. Well after a small negotiation and 3 hale Mary's all was forgiven.
    Viva La Mexico:jose :strum :knary :knary :knary
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  5. yelostn78

    yelostn78 Have GS will Travel

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    mas! por favor!!!
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  6. BigDogAdventures

    BigDogAdventures Fart Letter Supporter

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    Thanks Mr. Gadget---glad you liked that one. I hope this one comes together--I'm having Windoze problems out the poopee hole.
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  7. gaspipe

    gaspipe Wandering Soul

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    You'll be missed in Baja this year, amigo. Let's go ride some singletrack when I get back.

    On with the show!

    :freaky
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  8. biketherapy

    biketherapy current ride: 2017 KTM 390 Duke

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  9. BigDogAdventures

    BigDogAdventures Fart Letter Supporter

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    The Husky was all done----manual says to replace the rod every 6,000 miles ago-----with 17,000 on it after this trip----guess I'll just not worry about it--thing is quiet as a mouse-----smooth as can be.
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    I picked up Tim in Rolla Missouri in snow and ice.
    It was treacherous getting to his house, and we fought ice on the road
    till we got far South.
    As in past trips
    "El (long pause) Perro Grande would regret not having
    A Frickin' Spare Tire"


    And would again meet the fat man from Arkansas (who moved to Texas) with the highest priced tires in all of Texas----and Arkansas :huh
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    We arrived safely, driving straight thru to Presidio, Texas where we would leave the
    tow vehicle and stay at the 3 Palms motel for the night--after doing border town paperwork. The motel was full of riders---all were doing day rides over the border and then returning the same day. Don't know why they call it the 3 palms :D
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    It was so nice and warm here--we had all day to get things done as we arrived in the early morning
    and were prepared for a daybreak departure the next day.
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  10. BigDogAdventures

    BigDogAdventures Fart Letter Supporter

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    Presidio, Texas To Nonoava, Chihauhau

    We hit the road as the sun was coming up and breesed thru the border crossing
    like we knew what we were doing. Tim's a little nervous---- or was it excited
    as we crossed into Ojinaga, Chichauhau.

    Pequiscaney Canyon---a cool canyon to warm you up to the much bigger canyons to follow.
    It's just about 25 miles into the Mexican state of Chihauhau just West of Ojinga---a beautiful place.

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    I have finally after 56 years on this earth--come to the peak of my experience about packing.
    We took very little--except the necessites----no hard bags--kermit chairs or ice coolers
    would go on this trip. The casual clothes I packed consisted of one pair of light synthetic pants
    where the legs zipped off to be used as shorts and a light pair of slip-on shoes
    -----that's it--nada. I never needed or wanted anything else. My riding socks and shirts
    would serve as my other casual clothes. I could have ridden around the world with what I had.
    My riding gear prepared me for anything the weather thru at me including freezing temps,
    hot temps, rain, sleet, snow or hail.

    I guess I can sound a little cocky now------now that I'm home all cozied up
    and we had none of the bad weather above.

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    "I'm gettin' kinda' Sweepy"
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  11. BigDogAdventures

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    The roads to here aren't worth mentioning--but we hit dirt North of Nonoava, Chihauhau
    and rode thru some beautiful ranch country--the real riding has begun.

    Here, Tim had heated us up a cup of hot tea on his Jet-Boil cook stove.
    Tim had the larger Dirt Bagz and had food for a couple of days if need be.
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    We blew into the dusty town of Nonoava about 5PM and filled our tanks
    at the Pemex (gas station) before finding the Motel.
    There is one Motel in Nonoava and we got a nice room for about $350 pesos ($35).
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    I told Tim to wait outside and I negotiated the price of our room.
    Since as you can see---I am quite literate (or is it full of it) in Spanish.
    No---Problem-O for "El (long pause) Perro Grande.
    (Big Dog ----for you Gringos)

    My wife says I needed a new hat-----4 years ago !!
    It just feels good and I can't part with it--sentimental value you know.
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    These very nice girls fixed our dinner for us.
    We had a hoot with them---they couldn't speak a word of English
    and I couldn't speak a word of Spanish---so it worked out really well----I thought !!!
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    Tim was hilarious-----he had his nose in that Spanish book and give it all he had.
    His all-------wasn't good enough usually----but it was fun to watch.
    He got so engrossed in to learning Spanish--and had a great time with it.
    With all meals---you always get the thinnest flapjacks I ever saw--pretty dry
    with no Aunt Jamima's. After that hot sauce on the table bout took my head off....
    El Perro Grande was cautious after this.
    It was a delicious meal.
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    A couple hours later the lights went out----a local electrician was there in an instant and
    fixed the problem. He was glad we there to hold our flashlights on him while he worked.
    Really nice friendly guy.
    Our room had hot water and even a toilet seat--we were estatic--you don't always get a toilet--or a seat.
    Of course you always have to guess which side the hot is on--as they just don't care which
    side they put it on--I can live with that---saves a lot of labor.

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    These little boogers kept us entertained-----wife wants to go down and steal them--take them home she says.
    Since our son has been kinda slow about giving her some grand children, she's getting desperate!!!
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  12. Ensey

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    Keep it coming.....:lurk
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  13. BigDogAdventures

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    I guess I need to quit editing the video of this trip-------and get going on this ride report---------I'm hoping Tim will pop in and give some commentary.
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    LaOutbackTrail Certified Smartass

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    Gracias amigos. Y mas, por favor.

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  15. Gunslinger1

    Gunslinger1 GIVE'R

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    Hell Yes !!!!!

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    The Breeze....they call me The Breeze.........(Mrs. BigDog does anyway) :nod ........ and the facts are already getting distorted in this report so I better chime in.

    Its about The Story and this trip has a lot of stories. I know you folks like lots of pics and that will have to wait until my son helps me post a few.
    I first saw Senor BigDog about 4 years ago ( I did not know it at the time) while riding at the Falling Leaf Rally. Myself and 3 buddies were at Johnson's Shut-Ins State Park and in roll 4 guys that looked like characters out of Mad Max with boots, stickers all over thier bikes, something stuck to the top of their helmet, and dirty I mean really dirty like they had been on their bikes for a week or two. Come to find out they had. We stayed away from these cats as we we on very clean bikes and shiny boots.......you know the type. We ran into them at the Rally and I could not help myself and started to visit with the guy with the helmet cam......turns out it was Kevin Sweet we visit and he hands me a card.........Bigdogadventure.com TAT. What's that? A 5,000 mile dirt road across the U.S............your kidding me. I thought..........HOW KOOL IS THAT!

    Time goes by and I find ADV..........and BigDog and gaspipe do Western TAT and a few other stories I read. I find Mark's website and then I start firing the questions..bikes, gps info, how do you do this, how do you do that, etc. I am sure... driving him cazy. That goes on for awhile.....Then I run into him in REI in St. Louis....imagine that........THE BIGDOG himself........the Legend....well 2 hours later we are still talking. After a trip to Arkansas for some riding and a Friendship was struck up. Anyway a little history on this deal...

    NOW to straighen up this story...........The Blue eyed blond standing beside me is the one that said "HELL YES".........me I was still thinking Mexico........hell don't you know that's not a safe place, drugs, guns, banditos, dogs, small children and all that stuff?

    Mark says, "Great".........Let's go in Feb and we need 3 weeks. 3 WEEKS!!!!!! How am I gonna get off 3 weeks I think to myself. Well after thinking about it for 3 hours............ I can see it in my head.........OK......we are going to Mexico. I was :clap and :eek1 at the same time.........Its hard to explain.






    By the way........THis is gaspipe....he was with us the entire trip.

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    more in a bit

    The Breeze
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  16. BigDogAdventures

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    I have to tell more about how Tim got the name "The Breeze".

    While editing this video I put a Lynard Skynard tune (They call me the breeze) to the video while riding behind him on a fantastic road------.

    I show it to my wife and she's a dancin' all over the living room floor while still watchin' it----she's excited. She get the phone--------calls Tim and tells him I've got a name for you !!!

    The Breeze

    Now you know the rest of the story.

    Now Tim---don't start telling the truth----this is Advrider you know.
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    Now Tim---don't start telling the truth----this is Advrider you know


    Ah......EL.......Perro Grande..........THE TRUTH....now that is a novel thing.

    You know what they say, "There are 2 sides to every story and then there are the Facts"

    I am just telling my side of the story.........

    More of the Story,

    So Mark, "Do you know any spanish?" I mean how are we going to talk to these kind Mexican folks.

    He says, "No Problemo, I know a little spanish and it shall be no problem." Ok

    We arrive in Presidio about 9 or 10 in the morning first order of business is have some breakfast. It's a border town and the waitress basically just speaks spanish...........She says what she says, I look at Mark he looks at me and the grunting and pointing starts. I do not speak spanish dance is going on and we haven't even crossed the border yet. OMG............this is great when he said a little............well that was just a few well choosen words. I speak no spanish and brought the yellow book along.............so the rest of the trip goes, "Where is THE Book?"

    I am little nervous about this Mexico idea and get a little help from the locals. I bet we talk to 8 or 10 people that day who told us NOT to go into Mexico....there was a shooting accross the border yesterday, etc......BAD MOJO.... It went on and on. I say to Mark......."Do you always get this, don't go advice? and he says no. As one guy was warning us, Mark ask him, "Have you ever been to Copper Canyon?" The room went quiet and the guy ignores Mark.....he ask again. Finally the fellow says, NO. I thought the Ol BigDog was gonna show his teeth. But he just put his head down and shook it and finished his meal. I don't think I will for get that one.

    More Later,
    The Breeze
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  18. edeslaur

    edeslaur San Diegan

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    How would you compare the 908RR to the MT21s you've used on previous trips? I'm thinking about it being my next tire on my TE610, but I hear it has a stiff carcass and was wondering about how it handled aired down, rocks, dirt, dry and wet pavement. If you hit any wet, that is! :lol3
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    BigDog and I talk on a regular basis about our plans. When we will leave and such details...........that make all the difference. We agree we will leave when I get off work on Tuesday. Mark calls me the Friday before ready to go...........he is OFF work..........I could tell he was ready to leave NOW. I had to work some but managed to move our departure time up to noon so we would not be so late getting there.

    It was cold and icy for the first 200 miles. The FJ was great and had a good heater. We drove all night and really had a nice time. We were relaxed and had both done ALL we could think of to insure the trip went well.


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    We arrive and the Motel is Open............and there are other guys there riding in the desert..........Oh this is Good... more gringos. They were from Kansas and Oklahama and had been making the trek to ride in the desert for the last 30 years. One gut was in his middle 70's.......:lift riding with the young boys and very interested in our trip. A group of HD riders showed up from Joplin MO.... and they had a little bike trouble and after a couple of highballs they had that baby apart and enjoying themselves. Highballs and working on thier bikes.............just doesn't get any better. At dinner they were asking about our trip and seemed very interested..........they would not cross the border at all................( I thought EL Perro Grande was going to show his teeth again)........they had never been there.



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    Lisa..........my girlfriend fixed us a really nice roast for the road we enjoyed the entire trip and even had a snack the next day. It was way better than any fast food.:raabia THanks Lisa



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    Right out of the gate............the JB weld...........nothing to it.......it lasted the entire trip.


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    Where's my sticker..............NO Way am I going into Mexico without my sticker...When I came out of the room Mark had it put on.


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