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BDR development in British Columbia

Discussion in 'Canada' started by Bayner, Feb 19, 2021.

  1. Bayner

    Bayner Long timer

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  2. MotoActionADV

    MotoActionADV Level 16 wizard

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    I'm suspect they have already handled this but have they cleared any trademark issues with the BDR folk from rideBDR.com?

    I think it is a great idea, just wouldnt want any hard feelings/lawsuits :p
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  3. spuh

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    Agreed, simple courtesy would dictate getting in touch with BDR/Touratech USA. The BDR project is set up as a not for profit and has stayed at arms' length from Touratech. They intend to create one new state's BDR per year and so will run out of states eventually. And then come to Canada? Don't know how they feel about Canada; if they OK it, use the name. If not, come up with a new name for the routes and leave "BDR" to them, it's the right thing to do.
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  4. summitx

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    I think it's a wonderful idea but doubt it will ever happen in Canada. At least not similar quality ride terrain. In Canada or more specifically B.C. where I am familiar you would need buy in and cooperation from Government agencies. Both BC Parks and BC Lands and Forestry. There is a huge non motorized movement in B.C. driven by Wildsight and other similar organizations. Many of the places we ride we don't share with anyone except other mc riders we know. Hope I'm proven wrong.
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  5. uncle m

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    There are so many thousands of km. of active and deactivated resource roads, power line roads, etc. in B.C., even though areas are designated non-motorized, I can't imagine good routes couldn't be figured out that would avoid them. The USA BDR organization seems pretty good at lobbying both govts. and the private sector, and that would be required here too.
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  6. spuh

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    Excellent point, the BDR guys seem particularly fluent in speaking to governments. Which is a talent I suspect is lacking at most riders' organisations. Wouldn't it be great to get the BDR people in here?
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  7. uncle m

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    @spuh
    Agree! Definite value in the group proposing this to reach out to the US organization for advice as well as for the legal issues @MotoActionADV noted. And/or contact the TCAT organizers?
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  8. 250senuf

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  9. spuh

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    I'm averse to Facecrook but maybe an inmate who isn't ought to suggest this to those Okanagan guys.
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  10. uncle m

    uncle m Been here awhile

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    Me too, so nope!
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  11. summitx

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    From another thread discussing road closures. Government supports closures not responsible use.
    This is a battle not yet won by the citizens of BC but I remain hopeful. The landowner, a spouse of a Walmart heiress, has received, according to the Judge, remarkable assistance from the BC provincial authorities, remarkable assistance from the RCMP and remarkable assistance from the highways authorities.
    https://www.wcel.org/blog/edrf-victory-nicola-valley-fish-and-game-club-wins-fight-public-access
    We owe a great deal to the one group of volunteers, the Nicola Valley Fish and game club who have fought this battle relentlessly.
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  13. Ymirtrials

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  14. BCBackRoads

    BCBackRoads Travels with Gumby

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    Or the Billionaire land owners who hire the lawyers to get their own way.
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    filterx Been here awhile

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    Ya I've been riding in that area before and have been reading about that for the last few years and today.

    IMO if its a crown land and only accessible through private property, the public should have reasonable access to it.

    They've been able to work it out with active private cattle ranches around Kamloops BUT the owners are actually local's and not some rich dude from the USA who feels he's entitled.
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    From what I understand the judge sympathized with the fish & game club but stated his ruling had to abide by the existing laws. He suggested that these laws need to be revised. Hope this happens (John H. are you listening?).
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  17. uncle m

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    I read somewhere that the fish and game club are going to take this to the Supreme Court of Canada. Would definitely be worth a $$$ contribution but the link on their website seems to be broken.
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    What I ready yesterday was that the local club had to pay for their 100K or more legal fees to date and IMO fundamentally this is a Canadian wide issue, not specific to BC and anyone who enjoys and type of out door recreation in Canada should help $$$ wise supporting them.

    Not sure how the out door clubs would handle this in the USA but they have way more people hence way more interest and $$$$.
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    Along with ensuring right to public access, they should also eliminate foreign ownership. You should have to live on a property to own it and be a citizen. No Walmart millionaires buying up Canada.
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